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What happened?

 

 

From Mai's view

  

Inside story Mai told about what was up with Maa during the Hellocon ( the 5th January), and why she was crying.

 

It seems that on that day, Maachan disputed with the members, and cried backstage. Hagiwara who was seeing that, because it had nothing to do with herself, ignored it and kept an eye on it from the coulisse.

 

Then, Maa came patting along, crying ' Hagiwara-saaaan' as she drew close to Mai. After that, because there was also the Momusu performance,

Mai said, ' there's no reason to be crying now.' and seemed to make Maa stop her crying.

By the way, the reason for the dispute was that during Steady GO!, Okai and Maa were highfiving, but since it came in the way for other members it seems that it was banned.

' I can't highfive with Okai-san any longer.' Maa said crying.

Mai said something like, ' If it's Okai-san she'll highfive you anytime.', seeming to want to encourage Maa. 

 

After that, Momusu's performance having ended, and C-ute's performance too, Mai happened to see Maa and at noticing that she was still crying, asked surprised ' Are you still crying?'

It seemed she had been crying during Momusu's performance.

 

And, after the performance Maa was told something like, ' Sato-san, your singing and face was horrible.' By Oda, which seemed to make it more frustrating for Maa.

 

Summarized using of what both Mai and Fukumura said (from the rip).

 

 Maa and Okai highfiving got in the way ( Steady GO!)

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   Zukki sharply told Maa off 

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   Maa cried

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   Maa got together with Mai and was consoled

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   Mai tried to get Maa to stop crying because Momusu's performance was coming up

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   Maa cried during the performance (Egao)

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   ' Both your face and voice was awful' Oda told Maa after the performance

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   Maa continued crying

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   Mai found Maa like that and tried to console her again ( backstage during Hajimete no Keikenchuu)

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   During which Sayashi saw that and asked Fukumura why Maa was crying, whereupon Fukumura began explaining.

 

 

This is what we know what happened so far. 

[Mickey.]

^^ If that is supposed to be a pot-shot at Ikuta, you just scored an own goal though...

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But seriously, Masaki is fine. She just got upset for doing something wrong.

[Hexoone]

There's really something going on with Masaki and Kanon.. 
 
At least from what I can see..
 
I think Kanon might be really trying her best to control Masaki but apparently Masaki thinks she's bossy?
 
 (credits peachsem.tumblr.com)

[Mickey.]

^ that gif is taken way out of context though, don't you think?

[melonpan♪]

It would be crazy if Maachans crying really has to do with the big announcement at the end of january and they are just covering up O.o (just a conspiracy theory)

[Hexoone]

Yeah. Could be interpreted wrongly but I saw it on tumblr and it just struck me that most of the times you can see Zukki telling Masaki what to do or how to pose (like I forgot in some shoot) when Zukki just aligned her posture in a better way. 

 

I feel that for Zukki, it might be responsible to rectify Masaki's actions, Masaki will be like any other kid (or maybe I'm the only one) to hate forceful authority. And when scolded get the 'why me' sad feeling. 

 

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[AitorKamei]

I see Zukki as a nice, strict senpai.... Like Aika was with her and the other 9ki member.

[Snipey]

I thought it was a staff member telling her off and not the members.
http://sakiaii.tumbl...the-h-p-concert
Either way they must've thought she was disturbing okai by constantly doing it..it's not really something to cry about, but she's quite a pampered kid.
Can't help but still find her cute no matter how annoying it is that she cried over that.

[Da-manta-ray]

^^ I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Zukki really looks up to Aika a lot so it makes sense that she would try and emulate Aika's calm but strict way of teaching the 9ki. 

 

@AndreasE: I agree with most of what you said, though, I'm still of the opinion that there was some bit of cleverness involved in Maa-chan's move towards Reina. I remember Maa-chan stating in the auditions that her favourite member was Niigaki Risa, so it seems strange to me that if she just wanted the love an older sempai, Niigaki, Sayu and maybe Aika (though since she was being the stricter sempai at the time, maybe less likely) seem like more of the big sister type than Reina who is well-known for being a lone wolf and not especially close with anyone.  

 

In any case, I think Maa-chan will probably grow out of this phase (unless she pulls a Koharu). She seems smart enough to know that she won't repeat what happened that day, so I think Maa-chan will grow up just fine I look forward to a "cool Satou", as Tsunku put it

[number244]

I know we don't like to see Maachan crying, but I feel like this is blown way out of proportion.  Being told off by senior members is nothing new.  Crying about being reprimanded is not new either.  However I don't think Maachan should be crying on stage, either.  It's unprofessional, and it sends the wrong message to everyone watching the performance.  Just think about how many of us in the forum automatically connected her tears to some other piece of bad news.  

I know she probably can't control it, but that's the facts.  

 

Maachan doesn't have a DVD about her attending a Reina fanclub like that other member :B

 

WTF?  I don't think this adds to the conversation at all

[FRESHSKY]

I'd be lying if I said I never questioned Maa-chan's friendship with Reina, but I feel like Maa-chan is just really clingy in general. Although it may seem like I'm talking about her in a bad light, she really is a selfish spoilt child and I think it's only natural that because of this she get's closer with senpais. I feel like the attention she gets from them is a lot different than those who are around her age.

Like when Sayu was mentoring Koharu she was annoyed with how needy Koharu was. Back then she was around 15/16 IIRC? That's about the age on average of the new gen of musume's. I can definitely see members getting annoyed/frustrated with her a lot. I think it would also explain why she gravitates towards older members, such as seeking out Maimai instead of consulting her gen instead.

 

TLDR; Maa-chan is clingy, older members give her the attention she wants.

[Kaeseki]

Has anyone considered the possibility management was pushing Maa-chan's buttons to get her to freak out, thus causing a stir in the fanbase and (probably) boosting sales?  Remember, the girls are in the clutches of a group of people who have no issues with exposing them to a largish crowd while they were sleeping...

[lee@]

Yeah seems plausible... I mean, there's ten of them so I'm sure it doesn't matter much if one is crying in a corner backstage while the others are performing, right?

[xxxmayuriin]

The MV of Kimi no Kawari wa Iyashinai maybe coming out today on Hello Project Station^^

[page11]

Ok, she's unprofessional, she's a brat she'#@$%#%$@&*
Done?
Just stop already

But lately it seem to me, the more popular she gets, the more she lets her bratty side shine and I really don't like that in high doses... I mean what's with this kissing up to Sayu all the time? When there was still Reina, it was Reina. Now it's Sayu?? When Fukuchan's the next leader will it be her then? I just don't like this directed form of affection she displays... what about her generation mates? What abaout Duu and Sakura? Why not try to be everbody's best buddy?....*sigh*...
 
Maachan, please be cool and sweet again, it would be such a loss if this side of you disappears....

Sorry but your comment annoys the hell out of me :|

[muscat]

^ Don't let it get to you. 

 

Some people don't realize that without Maachan the way she is right now, Sayu would be so lonely. I'm sure she's a handful and all, but Sayu and Reina look like they were having a lot more fun at work after Maachan joined. The other girls are all around the same age and can hang out with each other. 10ki actually are really close as a generation I think. So what if Maachan clings to Sayu backstage, or even other group senpai during the harocon. 

Doesn't bother me one bit.

[zam（仮）]

To add to this Sato and Zukki discussion, here's my two cents.

Spoiler

First of all I've been watching the talk segment between 10kies and 11ki members on Girls Live and I don't think Maachan acted bad there (or maybe a bit but I'll explain) before Sakura started to talk she lift up her hand like saying "Dozo (here you go)" but instead of taking down the hand she kept it up, that's the only bad thing I saw her do and that was actually really mild, no one would ever think of that before this incident because it's seriously just Maachan being Maachan and it's why I guess she got most fans because of it.
Where she was pointing at herself and looking at Haruna she didn't either try to interrupt Sakura her she was actually polite (in her own way), she heard something she wanted to add to discussion and wanted to say something. It's like putting up your arm in class, and Ayumi actually said to Masaki that she could go next after Oda so Maachan stood still again and waited for Sakura to finish talking instead of interrupting her. 
 
And now to the big elephant in the room, she cried because Kanon scolded her for getting in the way. First I want to mention (I'm a guy so I can't say I'm an expert at this but still) Maachan is now 15, either she have been in her puberty for a while or just gotten there but the first few years are really tough for both girls and boys when they hit puberty (even more so for girls) they can have heavy mood swings, sure the other handles it much better but Masaki is such a person that she can get really moody she's always been like that (Wotas are always talking about how she either can be really cheerful during handshake, either by jumping up and down, playing games or just love to talk. Then there's days she's quite gloomy and they're trying to cheer her up to no avail).
 
Damn this is getting really long but still please stay with me (or jump to next post/thread). 
 
Maachan seems to be a person who has to be loved by everyone, and most of those who are outward cheerful mostly are insecure inside. She's mentioned alot of times how she wants to make new friends (the latest Pocket Morning she touched on that subject, that she would use a spell to make people like her more), there was also that time she wanted to buy 40 DS's (most "casual" people still say DS to 3DS so I guess she's talking about that but anyhow), the same segment she said her friends in school teased her for being ugly in the morning (probably it's a joke from them but jokes can hurt too especially if they're said repeatedly).
 
So why did she cry? We know (atleast assume) that Suzuki scolded her for being in the way during an act, but as lots of people pointed out her jacket was also not shut and broken so probably that was the last thing to completely made her fall down in tears. Then after the performance she was told of by her "kouhai" that her moves and singing were sloppy and that really ruined her day. She had not just let Kanon down, she had also ruined all other nine members performance. 
 
If what I guessed, that she want to be loved by everyone is true, then it's no wonder she lost it and cried alot during backstage afterward. And when you have broken down it's hard to stop crying til' everything is out.
 
So to sum it all up, Masaki sure was unprofessional but she's just a human, no humans can control every instinct they have and if they could then they would actually be more synthetic than being alive and no one would ever want that. 
Also I wanted to point out that Suzuki did the right thing in telling her what she did was wrong, as her sempai she is supposed to tell them what's wrong and not.
 
About why Masaki went after Reina when she was in the group and then later Michishige is probably not because that she wants to gain more popularity it's just that some people likes to hang out with older people, and she's a long way away from home so it's no strange that she needs a "big sister" in her life. No I don't think that's acting especially because I don't think that Dokkiri prank was staged, the way Sato hugged Sayumi when falling asleep shows how much she needs her.
Sorry for all this text, but sometime when I start writing I can't stop until I'm completely done

I share the same observations as you do but you put it into words better than I could

[Kotoko'22]

I don't care about Maachan's "bratty" character, it's just good entertainment. But ever since she joined MM I've been slightly worried about the possibility that she's a difficult person to work with. A big turn off for me is not how someone acts in front of the cameras but what happens behind the scenes. If she makes trouble for others because of her behaviour I hope she grows out of it soon. But so far it doesn't seem like the other members hate her...I guess? 

[xxxmayuriin]

Maa-chan is in the growing stages of life, it's normal that she would experience mood swings and at the start be unable to control her emotions.

But I'm sure with her generation mates with her, Sayumin, 9ki and Sakura, she would be able to learn to control her mood swings & her emotions.

After all, that's the way all girls and boys experience while growing up.

[Sakura Kura]

^^I think there're times when she can be hard to work with, but also there's times I think where she can cheer up everyone by her cheerfulness and playfullness. So it's give and take.