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#1541 Lurkette

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 07:27 PM

The event is free but you will need to bring money for the mandatory drink fee (which is 500Y if I'm not mistaken). The ticket you're referring to is a communication ticket that they give you for attending, which will be to spend approximately 1 minute speaking with a random member, in this case. You can read more about these on Krv's blog (I also recommend contacting him for other Guso Drop stuff since he knows more than I do). 

 

This is the venue website. Here's what they say about accessing the venue: "At JR Meguro Station, leave through the west exit and take a right. Go left down the hill in front of Mitsui Sumitomo and once you cross the pedestrian bridge, you will reach the building. The venue is below 'Yakiniku Jojoen (焼き肉叙々苑).'"


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 09:50 PM

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Not related with that, but an interview with the group:

http://top.tsite.jp/...51427/?ta16x=x2

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This compilation is a mixed bag (idols, cute rappers and just rappers) but it doesn’t mean it could not be a nice album (most of the tracks are in YT):

http://bootrock.jp/r...d/artist/11/45/
http://kai-you.net/article/20073
http://www.musicman-...tist/49264.html

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Actually finding this group through the sister group (Love Potion):



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#1543 Moondoggie

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:19 PM

The event is free but you will need to bring money for the mandatory drink fee (which is 500Y if I'm not mistaken). The ticket you're referring to is a communication ticket that they give you for attending, which will be to spend approximately 1 minute speaking with a random member, in this case. You can read more about these on Krv's blog (I also recommend contacting him for other Guso Drop stuff since he knows more than I do). 

 

This is the venue website. Here's what they say about accessing the venue: "At JR Meguro Station, leave through the west exit and take a right. Go left down the hill in front of Mitsui Sumitomo and once you cross the pedestrian bridge, you will reach the building. The venue is below 'Yakiniku Jojoen (焼き肉叙々苑).'"

Thanks. Yeah I kinda figure with the drinks thing it's the same with all these live houses. I'm sure that communication would be interesting XD. Lots of broken Japanese and nervous smiling I have problems talking to people in real life as it is nevermind in Japanese. Well those directions are a little easier. Would probably have to go early just in case I get lost.

I learn about most of this stuff from Krv's blog it's a good read. May have to send him a message to get the score on how these things work.


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Posted 21 August 2015 - 07:07 AM

 

The event is free but you will need to bring money for the mandatory drink fee (which is 500Y if I'm not mistaken). The ticket you're referring to is a communication ticket that they give you for attending, which will be to spend approximately 1 minute speaking with a random member, in this case. You can read more about these on Krv's blog (I also recommend contacting him for other Guso Drop stuff since he knows more than I do). 

 

This is the venue website. Here's what they say about accessing the venue: "At JR Meguro Station, leave through the west exit and take a right. Go left down the hill in front of Mitsui Sumitomo and once you cross the pedestrian bridge, you will reach the building. The venue is below 'Yakiniku Jojoen (焼き肉叙々苑).'"

Thanks. Yeah I kinda figure with the drinks thing it's the same with all these live houses. I'm sure that communication would be interesting XD. Lots of broken Japanese and nervous smiling I have problems talking to people in real life as it is nevermind in Japanese. Well those directions are a little easier. Would probably have to go early just in case I get lost.

 

Finding venues one hasn't been to before in Tokyo invariably turns out to be more difficult than the map on their websites suggest...I remember wandering around the streets of Koiwa for a good half hour last year looking for BushBash and then happening on it by chance.

I don't know this place but since the shows in their Monday night residency are free (+ ¥600 drink fee) I'll probably drop by one Monday when I'm over there in Oct~Nov.


Here's my translation of the OTOTOY interview with Watanabe Junnosuke:

BiSH~Rock'n Roll Swindle~ Can the knockoff surpass the original?!

 

The member interviews were also fairly fun, I might do those later, too. 

Thanks for that. Interesting that the interview was by one of Limited Express (has gone).



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Posted 21 August 2015 - 07:33 AM

 

I suppose part of what makes BiSH so easy to dislike, if you're a BiS fan, is that BiSH are way more "idol" than BiS ever were, in terms of appearance and how they function as a group. If we're holding BiS up to be some sort of alternative idol icon because of how unconventional they were in all things, BiSH can't even hold a candle to what BiS was. However, the music is good, the girls are cute, they're fun to watch, and that's all I really care about.

And while the Watanabe interview implies they were pretty much conceived as a BiS copy act, maybe he had a change of plan, as they're certainly now an act in their own right.


I'm not sure that I'd really disagree with much that's been said in this discussion.  I'm generally pretty cynical about concepts such as subversion and authenticity in relation to pop music (I go back a long, long, long way, and I've seen a lot, some of it from far too close), so I guess that my expectations for anything genuinely radical are low.  But that's OK with me, as long as what happens is fun, and I like the music, which at this point is generally the case. 

I do want to put in at least half a word for Billie Idle  --  they actually won me over with the "Anarchy in the Music Scene" PV (in part, I suppose, because there's just enough sacrilege left in something like that for me to appreciate the irony, but I actually do like the song), and I find myself liking several other cuts off their album.  But it's hard not to draw a parallel between the BiS spin-off groups and the various Sex Pistols spin-offs, most of which are little more than footnotes in rock history (The Rich Kids, the Ronnie Biggs single, Sid Vicious doing "My Way")  --  although I actually liked those quite a lot as well.  XD

The Rich Kids had a few really good songs which for me are more listenable today than the Pistols, and we no longer have that problem of liking something that Midge Ure was involved with!


The Sex Pistols themselves are actually a good comparison to more controversial and "rebellious" idol groups.Sex Pistols were a punk rock band and they did a lot of controversial stuff but were still very mainstream and the stuff they did was publicity stunts they were not trying to rock the boat but capitalise on a movement and a feeling among a certain crowd. It doesn't make them bad they were very fun but they were not really trying to be anti establishment but they had good management who painted them as rebels starting a revolution.

Of course McLaren stage managed a lot of the things they did, and had more success with his stunts than he could ever have dreamed, but even though they reached No. 1 in the singles charts with "God Save The Queen" at the height of punk they were still never 'mainstream'. Maybe it looked like that from across the pond, but trust me, they weren't.



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Posted 21 August 2015 - 02:07 PM

Of course McLaren stage managed a lot of the things they did, and had more success with his stunts than he could ever have dreamed, but even though they reached No. 1 in the singles charts with "God Save The Queen" at the height of punk they were still never 'mainstream'. Maybe it looked like that from across the pond, but trust me, they weren't.

 

 

I'm not from across the pond XD. I guess it depends how you want to define mainstream but to me anyone with that much publicity,TV,radio play etc is mainstream. Their stunts were pretty wild and punk rock may have started very underground but the Sex Pistols popularity commercialised it and paved the way for other punk bands to become popular and commercial like Sham 69. One Sex Pistols stunt my Mum told me about at a local venue which was pretty well known but sadly knocked down now they did a gig where they basically encouraged people to trash the place and loads of windows got smashed up. Don't think they even played most gigs because something would happen XD.
 

 

Finding venues one hasn't been to before in Tokyo invariably turns out to be more difficult than the map on their websites suggest...I remember wandering around the streets of Koiwa for a good half hour last year looking for BushBash and then happening on it by chance.

I don't know this place but since the shows in their Monday night residency are free (+ ¥600 drink fee) I'll probably drop by one Monday when I'm over there in Oct~Nov.


 

 

It's unfortunate that I didn't decide on a longer trip since their first night there is the day before I go home but I guess maybe next time I'll plan something for longer. Would have been nice to see them a few times for free. Well sort of free except for the drink token cost. Japanese venues are confusing as hell it seems like a lot are on a floor of a building where the other things on it could be totally unrelated like you'd walk through a quiet book store to an elevator to another floor where there is a rock venue or something lol. And you wouldn't know from looking at the building outside.


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Posted 21 August 2015 - 04:27 PM

I guess it depends how you want to define mainstream but to me anyone with that much publicity,TV,radio play etc is mainstream. 

 

Completely agreed. The idea that "mainstream" is some sort of mythical monolith that looks and sounds a certain way is kind of ridiculous, tbh. 

 

Underground acts can become mainstream (seriously, look at the location of the AKB48 forum on 2ch, it says "chika idol", which is what they first were) and mainstream acts can (sometimes, very rarely) become underground. It's a rather porous barrier, to be frank


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Posted 21 August 2015 - 04:35 PM

Thanks for that. Interesting that the interview was by one of Limited Express (has gone).

 

They did end up contributing to their album. If you listen to it, it's pretty obvious which song, too. 


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Posted 22 August 2015 - 04:55 AM

MC MIRI of Rhymeberryin a little freestyle jam. She has really stepped up her rap skills in the past year. Maybe the problems that plagued Rhymeberry brought out some aggression and determination in her.



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 06:06 AM

I'm not from across the pond XD. I guess it depends how you want to define mainstream but to me anyone with that much publicity,TV,radio play etc is mainstream. Their stunts were pretty wild and punk rock may have started very underground but the Sex Pistols popularity commercialised it and paved the way for other punk bands to become popular and commercial like Sham 69.

 

 

It's unfortunate that I didn't decide on a longer trip since their first night there is the day before I go home but I guess maybe next time I'll plan something for longer. Would have been nice to see them a few times for free. Well sort of free except for the drink token cost. Japanese venues are confusing as hell it seems like a lot are on a floor of a building where the other things on it could be totally unrelated like you'd walk through a quiet book store to an elevator to another floor where there is a rock venue or something lol. And you wouldn't know from looking at the building outside.

 

Sorry about the location blunder; the fact that you even bothered mentioning US scene and Black Flag was what made me make that incorrect assumption. The Pistols and punk in general had next to no TV and radio play at the time. John Peel's show was basically the only place you could hear punk. Don't forget that when "God Save the Queen" should have been number 1 the chart was rigged so that "Top of the Pops" didn't have to air it, and if you were watching the Beeb's 'alternative' music show "The Old Grey Whistle Test" you could be forgiven thinking punk didn't even exist in the UK.

偶想Drop's residency has already begun, so as long as you're there on a Monday you'll be able to attend. A free gig may be free for a reason, so it might be best not to have too high expectations; and you don't want to waste an evening when you could be at a better show elsewhere. Anyway, as I'm over there for 3 weeks I'll almost definitely go along once, and let you know how it is.



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 06:31 AM

BPM 15Q, a self produced idol group released their song and MV of the same name. It features Rinahamu from BiS and nicamoq.

 

 

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Posted 22 August 2015 - 11:31 AM

 

 

For a truly radical one... The change has to come from within management, not through the front. So we'll never see subversiveness, only hear about it. Examples would be like Callme doing everything themselves, and being an "idol" group in name only, or Sasshi setting up her own management company while nominally being an "idol". This is actually radical. 

 

I haven't actually read anything about CallMe. Are they really doing everything themselves? It was the only reason I could think of for the trio to leave DLH, but being on the same label I assumed they were working within  basically the same parameters. That said, I thought their first single was rather weak.



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 12:38 PM

偶想Drop's residency has already begun, so as long as you're there on a Monday you'll be able to attend. A free gig may be free for a reason, so it might be best not to have too high expectations; and you don't want to waste an evening when you could be at a better show elsewhere. Anyway, as I'm over there for 3 weeks I'll almost definitely go along once, and let you know how it is.

 

I wouldn't say my expectations are high it's a little sweat box (Although quite a famous venue apparently for visual kei bands making their debut there) and 偶想Drop have like maybe 7-8 songs total so I'm not expecting a 2 hour epic concert XD. Their sets from what I've seen from footage of mixed shows are about 30 minutes. I just want to see them while I can because groups like this can vanish at any time. I feel like they won't but you never know. They have something about them so I feel like they could become bigger  and it's that case it'd also be nice to be able to see them in a small intimate venue. In the other case I don't want to say I missed my chance and next year they break up.


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Posted 22 August 2015 - 02:33 PM

Finally we can see SANO Bran Doll 

 



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Posted 23 August 2015 - 03:47 AM

 

 

 

For a truly radical one... The change has to come from within management, not through the front. So we'll never see subversiveness, only hear about it. Examples would be like Callme doing everything themselves, and being an "idol" group in name only, or Sasshi setting up her own management company while nominally being an "idol". This is actually radical. 

 

I haven't actually read anything about CallMe. Are they really doing everything themselves? It was the only reason I could think of for the trio to leave DLH, but being on the same label I assumed they were working within  basically the same parameters. That said, I thought their first single was rather weak.

 

 

Callme's music is the type of music that I really like (well, I really tend to like everything, but it's an electro-pop that reminds me of a cross between Perfume and Vanilla Beans so that's all good with me) so I looked into them more.

 

From what I've heard, 

 

 

callme was at first a sub-unit of DLH and features Ruuna as the leader, Mimori as the music composer, Koumi in charge of the choreography and all the girls write the lyrics together.

 

which is nice. That BPM15Q sounds even better too in terms of actual subversiveness, as they're self-produced (the same can be said of Deguchi Aki as well, since her first single was similarly self-produced). 

 

Whether or not it's a solo production will still remain to be seen, but there's hope.


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Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:52 AM

 

From what I've heard, 

 

 

callme was at first a sub-unit of DLH and features Ruuna as the leader, Mimori as the music composer, Koumi in charge of the choreography and all the girls write the lyrics together.

 

Thanks for that info. It suggests they're an independent-minded trio, especially considering their age...unless, of course, there's a management team in the shadows more-than-guiding their every move. I do hope they go on to produce some worthwhile music, and if I get a chance to see them live in October/November I will try to take it.  I'm glad to see the photos of them in the Mondrian inspired dresses have been replaced on the website; that look didn't seem to suit them at all, and they look much better with a more natural style in their summer wear.


 That BPM15Q sounds even better too in terms of actual subversiveness, as they're self-produced

 

I don't much care for the song though.



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Posted 23 August 2015 - 11:17 AM

A MV for Psybou Kanojo:



This song is featured on that TRASH-UP!! compilation, or well you could also ride a peacock:

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And just buy the album on 09/30:

http://psybou-kanojo...st/127325633942

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A subunit for Yuna and Kaede from PassCode called Yunakapi.

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Graduation time on Bonyari Kurumin Idol (Reinyan is leaving) and probably hiatus for the group. (So it’s time to imagine how to purchase their stuff before it becomes legendary).

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Sound previews for the new N☆RNiR single:


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That, apart from being one of those singles where the designer leaves a member out of the artwork before that member announces her graduation from the group, could be major (or not).

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 11:35 AM

 

Thanks for that. Interesting that the interview was by one of Limited Express (has gone).

 

They did end up contributing to their album. If you listen to it, it's pretty obvious which song, too. 

 

While I'd heard the album I hadn't actually had chance to break open the seal on my copy til today. Yes, thankfully I could tell which track it was without checking, and looking at the booklet I see that they wrote the song...I'm guessing they did so specifically for the album (it's become a way for non-mainstream band people to actually earn some money) and it wasn't simply a LEHG cover. Interestingly, thinking back, you could say (LEHG member) Yukari's other band Ni Hao! was (more so than is) a sort of proto alternative idol act in the way that each member had their own colour.



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Posted 23 August 2015 - 11:58 AM

Since apparently the fathers of Rie Kaneko (LADYBABY) passed away just recently, does someone know more about it? What does she say in her blog about it? http://ameblo.jp/chu...2063853243.html

This is so sad...


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Posted 23 August 2015 - 12:27 PM

Since apparently the fathers of Rie Kaneko (LADYBABY) passed away just recently, does someone know more about it? What does she say in her blog about it? http://ameblo.jp/chu...2063853243.html

This is so sad...

Aw poor Rie... Deaths in the family are usually heartbreaking, but this must be very hard for it consider it's her father, the man who raised her. I'm kinda hoping she'll get a break from any upcoming activities so she can mourn in peace. R.I.P Rie's Father  :( .

 

On the other hand...

 

If you like BiSH/BiS/PoP (Pla2me), you should listen to the group ぜんぶ君のせいだ / Zenbu Kimi no Seida / Blame Everything On You. The sound from their second single, "Shit End Placebo" kinda has a more typical BiSH/BiS sound to it, but the group's concept it completely different. They are a "yami kawaii" group (sick-cuteness), unlike BiSH/BiS who are more rebellious, "i don't give a shit" idol groups. 

 

Second Single's MV: https://youtu.be/1CsCYcTF9w4

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