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[Icee]

Well... Someone has to step up. It can't be 100% Riho covering up for Reina. Well, it could, but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.

I think Masaki can't really be counted as a "Reina replacement" until she takes all of her lines in older songs in concerts. If it was just Riho-Masaki lead, then I would say that she's basically covering for Reina, but there are others who are getting a decent amount of lines too.

Besides, I think from the recent two Reina-less performances that they'll be splitting her lines pretty evenly.

[Happy Now?]

I like the song. I love that vocaloid sample that they use in the beginning, kind of like in Kikka's songs.

 

 

 Am I crazy, or did I hear a lot of Zukki in the duet lines?

 

Yeah, I love when she gets duet lines. They sound like solos.

[Icee]

I did colour-coded romaji. Feel free to correct me.
And does anyone else agree with me about the eyecatch thing I mentioned?

Spoiler

 

Riho, seems to make a lot of mistakes while lip-synching? I doubt she's in both groups that are otherwise evenly divided into 5, but she mouths the words a few times when it wouldn't make sense like that.
Sayumi / Fukuchan / Ikuta / Riho / Zukki / Harunan / Ishida / Maachan / Duu / Oda 
 
Ai aru muchinara shikatanaitte
[Sayu/Fuku] Honto? Honto?
[Nan/Maa] Honto? Honto?

Seikou shitara shiawase dato ka
[Ishi/Duu] Honto? Honto?
[Iku/Zuk] Honto? Honto?

Segen wo shirazu [Sayu/Fuku] machi wo tobidashi
[Sayu/Fuku/Nan] Koko de kurasu ima (Ah)

Itsu no mani yara [Ishi/Maa] Furusato no youna
[Zuk/Ishi/Maa] Nukumori kanjiteru
Wow wow, [Fuku/Riho/Maa] wo-wo, OW!

[Sayu/Riho/Nan/Ishi/ Oda] Honto ni dareka wo mamoritaikeya
Tanin no me nante ki ni nannai
[Fuku/Iku/Zuk/Maa/Duu]Choushiki kankaku to ka iu kedo
[Fuku/Maa] Shukan ni yoru darou
Bonnou honnou

[Sayu/Ishi/Oda] Jibun wo shinjite yukushikanai
Ai no gundan

Chikarareru uchi wa hana toka iu kedo
[Zuk/Iku] Honto? Honto?
[Ishi/Duu] Honto? Honto?

(Kurou?)kotte demo shita hou ga iitte
[Nan/Maa] Honto? Honto?
[Sayu/Fuku] Honto? Honto?

Mokuteki shirazu [Iku/Ishi] kono yo ni umare
[Iku/Ishi/Duu] Toshi kasanete ima (Ah)

Shimei kanteki [Sayu/Fuku] na nani ka ga
[Sayu/Fuku/Maa] umare tekitano wa jijitsu
Wow wow, wo-wo, OW!

 
[Fuku/Iku/Zuk/Maa/Duu] Chikaku ni aru tokya wakaranakute
Tooku hanaretara ki ga tsuku
[Sayu/Riho/Nan/Ishi/Oda] Naimono nedari ga ningen demo
[Sayu?/Oda]  Arigatasa wo shire
Kodoku to tatakai

[Riho/Maa/Duu/Oda] Ookina chikara ni nomikomarenai
Ai no gundan

Mokuteki shirazu kono yo ni umare
Toshi kasanete ima

[Sayu/Maa/Oda] Shimei kanteki na nani ka ga umare tekitano wa jijitsu (Ah)

Segen wo shirazu machi wo tobidashi
 Koko de kurasu ima (Ah)

Itsu no mani yara furusato no youna
[Fuku/Oda] Nukumori kanjiteru
Wow wow, [Riho/Maa] wo-wo, OW!

[Sayu/Riho/Nan/Ishi/Oda] Honto ni dareka wo mamoritaikeya
Tanin no me nante ki ni nannai
[Fuku/Iku/Zuk/Maa/Duu] Choushiki kankaku to ka iu kedo
[Fuku/Maa] Shukan ni yoru darou
Bonnou honnou

[Sayu/Riho/Ishi/Oda]Jibun wo shinjite yukushikanai
Ai no, Ai no, Ai no gundan
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Also, I realized why one of the voice effects sounded so familiar.

By the way, I think there's a short preview of Wagamama Ki no Mama used as the eyecatch clip. Or it could be a b-side.

[the rose garden]

Thanks for the lyrics and colour-coding! I hope that little snippet isn't part of the other A-side, I don't really like the sound of it...

[Kitsuiko]

Again, this is what I was talking about with trying to focus on wanting people to get more lines rather than people getting less.

 

Maachan gets a lot of lines.  That's awesome.  Does she get the entire song?  No.  Does she get appreciably more than anyone else?  Not really.  There are a few people who notably don't get to sing as much as I would personally like... but that doesn't mean it's time to go on a quest to find a new person to drink haterade from.  At that point you're just lying to yourself about it being about "equal lines" and you're trying to pretend you're not saying "my favorite gets lines".  I know that hurts but it doesn't mean the song is unfair.

 

And don't get me wrong - it's fine to want your favorite to get lines.  I ache personally at how underused my favorites are...  but I'm not about to begin to say this line distribution is uneven/wrong/skewed because of it.  There are 3/4 A side leads who all seem to pull equal duty, and 2 B side leads, with the majority of song sung in chorus.  Saying this line distribution is uneven is kind of facetious.  Not everyone can be a lead all the time but this does a fairly good job of shifting some of that around.

[taylorniw]

Aside from the fact that this speech came out of nowhere, I think you're not quite sure what some of the words you use actually mean.

[Happy Now?]

^There was a rant on Tumblr. I figured it might be from there?

[the rose garden]

I'd like to see this rant. Do you have a link?

[Obsidian]

Wasn't it a response to this?

 

Yeah, I liked the dance in general, but some of it seemed recycled from Kimi Sae.

I'm also sort of frustrated that Masaki is clearly being marketed as the Reina replacement. I was hoping this would be a chance for everyone to get a fair shot at lines but lol, I shouldn't have expected something so ambitious.

[JennyInTokyo]

I don't think Masaki is a Reina replacement and to be honest I don't think there is any member that will be promoted to become Reina's takeover. The girls bring their own qualities to the group. There may be a member that will be pushed to the front like Reina has in her career but they won't be moulded to be an actual Reina clone. It's like Takahashi Ai was an ace and had a lot of lines during her time as a member and Riho is now the ace of the current line up, but they are completely two different girls

[Da-manta-ray]

The line distribution was mostly what I was expecting, except there was considerably less Ayumi than I thought there was going to be, but I imagine she will be more heavily featured on the other A-side. I don't see them using Masaki as a Reina replacement really, except for the color change on that one magazine shoot I guess they both have a very idol voice. She's more featured I guess, but it was a good balance between her, Riho, Mizuki and Sakura. I expect to see less of her on the other A-side in much the same way she was not as prominent in Kimi Sae. 

[NightOfFire’21]

Yeah, the line distribution is pretty good in Ai no Gundan, it's completely different from the Ai/Reina formula of before, so I think it's something worthy of note

[Afya'15]

I think it is a good time to walk away from the two-girl-lead setup we had for years. I don't think we need a reina replacement. Currently no one sing in Reina's level, so why one single replacement?

[AitorKamei]

We should open our minds about the future of MoMusu. It may be completely different from what we're used to.

[ichibanb]

I'm loving the dance, one of their best to date!  The song isn't bad either, although it took till about the 2nd half of the song before it really started to grab me.    I've only watched it once so far but that was enough for me to think this one is gonna be another winner!   My only complaint is it seems just a tad too long.

[Dalvron'20]

We should open our minds about the future of MoMusu. It may be completely different from what we're used to.

True that, and I think it will actually be pretty great. Tsunku's got plenty of talent he can work with, the time is perfect for a change in structure and leave behind the days of the 2 leads + a lot of backup singers. This time we have 3 leads in the song (though Riho and Sakura sang more than Mizuki) plus Masaki (who got prominent solos but not really those many), and four girls fronting the dance. By the way, this was the type of dance I was expecting for Kimi sae... Hopefully it won't be too tiring for the girls when they perform the song live.

[the rose garden]

I'm loving the dance, one of their best to date!  The song isn't bad either, although it took till about the 2nd half of the song before it really started to grab me.    I've only watched it once so far but that was enough for me to think this one is gonna be another winner!   My only complaint is it seems just a tad too long.

 

Long? It's about the same length as everything from 123 on  Only You, Kono Chikyuu and Renai Hunter are all almost 5 minutes long.

[ichibanb]

 

I'm loving the dance, one of their best to date!  The song isn't bad either, although it took till about the 2nd half of the song before it really started to grab me.    I've only watched it once so far but that was enough for me to think this one is gonna be another winner!   My only complaint is it seems just a tad too long.

 

Long? It's about the same length as everything from 123 on  Only You, Kono Chikyuu and Renai Hunter are all almost 5 minutes long.

 

Yeah, I thought those were a bit long too. heh.  However, I still really liked them.

[Kitsuiko]

The line distribution was mostly what I was expecting, except there was considerably less Ayumi than I thought there was going to be, but I imagine she will be more heavily featured on the other A-side. I don't see them using Masaki as a Reina replacement really, except for the color change on that one magazine shoot I guess they both have a very idol voice. She's more featured I guess, but it was a good balance between her, Riho, Mizuki and Sakura. I expect to see less of her on the other A-side in much the same way she was not as prominent in Kimi Sae. 

 

Ayumin still had a really prominent position in the video which is something I'm glad to see.

 

I think if they switch it up with prominent video people and prominent song people blending out the group it'd be great.  Ikuta doesn't sing much but her voice is still strengthening so I wasn't surprised to not hear much of her and Iikubo.  Of course I'd like 80% more Duu (I freely admit I'm biased) so the song's a bit bitter sweet... I want to hear my oshi but all and all I'm glad to see the girls take a more "group" stance averse to a "soloist/backup' stance.

 

As far as how things are broken up... I think Osaka Koi no Uta's a good example.  You have three different leads, two girls who get a B side, and more lines distributed through the group.  Tweaking along those lines (a bit more lines amongst the "chorus" girl section) I think that's my personal favorite division. 

 

I also like how this song is lower in tone than some previous songs.  Less squeaky.  But I'm not a fan of the high pitched S/Mileage style even when their voices support it for a full tone like Meimi's or Kanyons.  Sans Reina and Eri, MoMusu has been a mezzo range and personally that's my favorite.  I'm not 100% on the song yet though it's pleasant.  I can see the idea of Kimi Sae that people are saying but I think they're more spiritual successors.

 

I like the electronica though I'm also fine if MoMusu were to try a completely new style again.  If Platinum Musume's basis was R&B pop then Colorful Musume seem to be electronica.  Though I'd like them to just try something new and weird like metal or jazz or big band or salsa again,    too

[WhiteForte]

First thing in my head when they did the dance formations