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#281 tadase

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Posted 01 December 2020 - 06:10 AM

^If you're thinking what I'm thinking, it's probably it. 9ki and 10ki will celebrate their 10th anniv in 2021. Expecting at least one of them to graduate next year.


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Posted 01 December 2020 - 02:33 PM

Nothing important but i've rewatched Gyuusaretai today and Sakura doesn't get any solos? The high note harmonies are super loud and she might be in most of them tho lol but to me this was FukuMaa & RioMei lead kinda? They mirror each other during the first and second parts & even duet together. In the end this song is way more duet oriented in any case.

I can imagine whoever graduates will do after Olympics but i bet someone will. I did think about graduation when I watched it cause they both 'disappear' after that scene ( this was used during all the pv tho) but it doesn't have to mean anything tbh. More like it's normal to assume one of them will graduate, but i also think about this for 10ki & Oda.

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Posted 02 December 2020 - 05:22 AM

^^ jesus, 10 years already? I'm getting old lol

But honestly...a graduation announcement from either of them wouldn't surprise me. I think it may be time for them to move on. MM needs a real shakeup.

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Posted 02 December 2020 - 05:29 AM

maybe they just did it since this is technically their 10th anniversary single...

 

personally, i don't think anyone is graduating before or during the olympics, so the earliest i expect graduations to happen is aki 2021 or haru 2022



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Posted 02 December 2020 - 07:12 PM

I didn't think too much about having Mizuki and Erina doing the dance break. It could just be a way to bring in fresh elements as opposed to the usual suspects.

But if anyone who is graduating, I got a feeling it will be Erina. She has been gaining traction for her solo work recently and she is glowing.

And if it will be a 10th year anniversary next year, perhaps she will follow her idol's route (Risa) and graduate from the group.



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Posted 03 December 2020 - 02:01 PM

^If you're thinking what I'm thinking, it's probably it. 9ki and 10ki will celebrate their 10th anniv in 2021. Expecting at least one of them to graduate next year.

Me too (plus, the one I'm expecting to graduate next year is Eripon).



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Posted 03 December 2020 - 02:44 PM

I definitely agree on it being Eripon next. I’d be surprised if anyone else announces it instead.

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 06:45 AM

I know that the company is against shared graduations these days, but I would love to see PonPon depart together.

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 07:25 AM

I like the idea of a PonPon graduation but I also kinda want to see them go the way of Aichan and Gaki where Mizuki can go first and then we get a short Eripon leadership (1-2 singles). 


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#290 tadase

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 09:00 AM

Nothing important but i've rewatched Gyuusaretai today and Sakura doesn't get any solos? The high note harmonies are super loud and she might be in most of them tho lol but to me this was FukuMaa & RioMei lead kinda? They mirror each other during the first and second parts & even duet together. In the end this song is way more duet oriented in any case.

 

Yep she doesn't. I thought this was one of those well-balanced MM songs in terms of line distribution with a lot of duets but with a 15ki-FuuMaa front in dance and MV. What surprised me more is Sakura got a high-note duet at the last chorus with... Reina? I'd probably want Chel in there for better harmony but it's surprising they chose her for that role


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#291 Kimagure Princess

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 02:09 PM

I don't want anyone of the current lineup to graduate before I get to see them live :( 



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Posted 04 December 2020 - 02:58 PM

I m kind of tired of mizukis voice :/ and I love junjou evidence a lot!!
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Posted 04 December 2020 - 06:35 PM

i'm not ready to see mizuki or erina leave. it will be tough.


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Posted 04 December 2020 - 07:59 PM

I think Sakura (and Miki) have short lines in the 1st part. They sound like group lines because of the vocoder, but i think they are solos. In the 2nd part, you can see the dance formation only focus on Pizuki and Akane for those short parts.

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 08:12 PM

I think Sakura (and Miki) have short lines in the 1st part. They sound like group lines because of the vocoder, but i think they are solos. In the 2nd part, you can see the dance formation only focus on Pizuki and Akane for those short parts.

yeah and it's really hard to hear in the 2nd part but fukuchan and akane have solos. akane's in particular is super quiet for some reason, like here's a clip of it u can barely hear her:

https://streamable.com/tjmmg2

 

this song has such weird mixing lol



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Posted 04 December 2020 - 10:15 PM

And she sounds a lot like Mizuki here... the mixing is really weird.


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 12:37 AM

In terms of fairness, I need Mizuki, Sakura and Masaki, to graduate first, so Erina and in a similar fashion, Ayumi, can get to lead the group. Maybe being the top senior, Erina will get something tangible besides dancing, cause she has very little to show in her whole tenure in the lines department. 

 

And I love that Reina seems (to me at least) to have many close ups and she is in the center of Gyuusaretai for many shots. And Reina is gorgeous and I love her duet with Sakura ♥


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 06:19 PM

In terms of fairness, I need Mizuki, Sakura and Masaki, to graduate first, so Erina and in a similar fashion, Ayumi, can get to lead the group. Maybe being the top senior, Erina will get something tangible besides dancing, cause she has very little to show in her whole tenure in the lines department. 

 

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It doesn't matter how long Erina stays, as long as she is not Sayumi (who I believe got lines because she is a very popular member), there is no way Erina will get any big chunks of solos coz the other members will catch up even if the current 3 main vocalists leave. At this rate, we can only be happy if she can get a one or two solo lines here and there and be more prominent in the dance routine.



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Posted 05 December 2020 - 06:49 PM

I know that the company is against shared graduations these days, but I would love to see PonPon depart together.

 

But honestly...a graduation announcement from either of them wouldn't surprise me. I think it may be time for them to move on. MM needs a real shakeup.

Two things I was thinking too, but I didn't want to put out there. I will be very disappointed if PonPon didn't graduate together. For some reason, that really is a fixed idea in my head. XD  And while I've been enjoying Eripon's performances and general attitude a lot, I agree that MM needs to change it up a bit. 12ki-14ki deserve to shine.

 

However, I can't imagine Maa-chan or Ayumin to become leader. ^^;


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 09:48 PM

In terms of fairness, I need Mizuki, Sakura and Masaki, to graduate first, so Erina and in a similar fashion, Ayumi, can get to lead the group. Maybe being the top senior, Erina will get something tangible besides dancing, cause she has very little to show in her whole tenure in the lines department. 


Harunan says "hi".
 
It doesn't matter how long Erina stays, as long as she is not Sayumi (who I believe got lines because she is a very popular member), there is no way Erina will get any big chunks of solos coz the other members will catch up even if the current 3 main vocalists leave. At this rate, we can only be happy if she can get a one or two solo lines here and there and be more prominent in the dance routine.

Sayu got lines because the producers loved working with her voice. She is the chorus vocal for many songs.




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