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[kagura san]

+ 10 Suzuki  Airi

+9 Kudo haruka

+8 Tamura meimi

+7 Inoure Rei

+6 Oda sakura

+5 Wada ayaka

+4 Inaba Manaka

+3 Yajima maimi

+2 Nomura minami

+1 Ikuta Erina 

 

 

BEST GROUP : ANGERME

 

BEST NEW COMER: INOUE REI 

 

BEST SINGER : ODA SAKURA

 

BEST DANCER :INABA MANAKA

 

BEST PERFOMER : SUZUKI AIRI

[leegyep4]

Best Idol

+10 Oda Sakura

+9 Sato Masaki

+8 Kanazawa Tomoko

+7 Nakanishi Kana

+6 Ishida Ayumi

+5 Murota Mizuki

+4 Sasaki Rikako 

+3 Ikuta Erina 

+2 Ozeki Mai

+1 Kishimoto Yumeno

 

Best Idol Group - Angerme

Best Newcomer - Funaki Musubu

Best Singer - Oda Sakura

Best Dancer - Inaba Manaka

Best Performer - Suzuki Airi

[minaeshi]

 

VOTING IS NOW CLOSED! 

 

Please do NOT put your votes in now as they will NOT be counted. 

If any of us (counters) have messaged you regarding an error in your votes, please respond asap. 

 

Thank you to everyone who has voted in this election, we've had a lot more people voting than last year which is great! 

The results should be out within a few days, sectioned off into three parts, so please look forward to it! 

 

RESULTS ANNOUNCED:

- MIDDLE (85 - 42) DECEMBER 31ST 2016 00:00 GMT

 - TOP HALF (41 - 1): JANUARY 1ST 2017 00:00 GMT

 

00:00 GMT (UTC) / 15:00 JST

 

If you're counting the votes on your own, please refrain from posting the results until AFTER we have posted the final votes on the 31st December. 

  Merry Christmas to you all! 

 

sorry we're not counting any more votes 

[ruel]

I think I saw some dummy accnts with very few posts or just made to vote LOL

[Fall]

That can be sorted out by join date.  Its not uncommon for people to make an account and then just almost never post.  So long as the join date was before the requisite, it shouldn't be much of an issue unless they suspiciously had the exact same list as someone else.

[KawaiiLand]

Very suspicious   

[IchVermisseDenSommer]

Thanks a lot minaeshi! But are you really posting the final results on New Years Eve?? This is so impressive. You are really dedicated!

[minaeshi]

^if all goes well, then yes! If it goes as badly as it did last year, then no LMAO. 

but we're aiming for new years so please look forward to it! 

 

as the rules state, we are only counting votes from users that have created their accounts BEFORE November 12th 2016, that have been handed in BEFORE December 25th 00:00am GMT, so if you don't see your name on the "votes counted" list once it's been updated, it's because you either posted your votes too late, or your account was made after november 12th. 

 

It's not too late to vote in the H!O Song Poll, Voting closes in a few days, click here to vote! 

[minaeshi]

Hello Everyone! I hope you're all having a nice holiday!

Thank you all for waiting for the results.

We counters have been working really hard to get the points as accurate as possible, so we really hope you enjoyed voting and are excited to see the results.

We're going to announce the bottom half now (ranks 82 - 41)

 

 C-ute - Morning Musume'15 - ANGERME - Juice=Juice - Country Girls - Kobushi Factory - Tsubaki Factory - Hello!Pro KSS - Hokkaido KSS

 

RANK | MEMBER | NO.OF POINTS |  RANK INCREASE OR DECREASE

 

82. Yamazaki Mei (NEW)

      Oota Haruka (NEW)

      Kawano Minori (NEW)

      Ishiguri Kanami (NEW)

      Hashisako Rin (NEW)

      Nishida Shiori (NEW)

      Yoshida Marie (NEW)

      Yonemura Kirara (NEW)

      Kodama Sakiko (NEW)

      Noguchi Kurumi (NEW)

      Maeda Kokoro (↓4)

71. Sato Hikari | 2 points (NEW)

      Yamazaki Yuhane | 2 points (NEW)

69. Kitagawa Ryo | 3 points (NEW)

      Ono Kotomi | 3 points (NEW)

67. Yokoyama Reina | 6 points (NEW)

      Horie Kizuki | 6 points (↓3)

65. Kudo Yume | 7 points (NEW)

      Inoue Hikaru | 7 points (↓2)

63. Kawamura Ayano | 12 points (NEW)

62. Ono Mizuho | 13 points (↑4)

61. Kiyono Momohime | 14 points (NEW)

60. Kanatsu Mizuki | 19 points (↑8)

59. Ichioka Reina | 20 points (↓2)

58. Akiyama Mao | 21 points (↑8)

      Yamagishi Riko | 21 points (↓7)

56. Kaga Kaede | 25 points (↓4)

55. Danbara Ruru | 26 points (↓9)

54. Onoda Saori | 28 points (↑8)

53. Takase Kurumi | 33 points (↑7)

52. Tanimoto Ami | 34 points (↓5)

51. Asakura Kiki | 49 points (↓2)

50. Ogata Risa | 54 points (↑7)

49. Niinuma Kisora | 58 points (↓8)

48. Kasahara Momona | 59 points (↑13)

47. Fujii Rio | 65 points (↑6)

46. Ozeki Mai | 70 points (↓7)

45. Ogawa Rena | 72 points (↓7)

44. Nomura Minami | 77 points (-)

43. Wada Sakurako | 84 points (↑8)

42. Kishimoto Yumeno | 90 points (↑3)

41. Miyazaki Yuka | 97 points (↓6)

 

That's all for today! The top half will be announced 24 hours from now, including the categories, so please look forward to that! 

[keaine]

May not be interesting for a lot of people, and not particularly short, so putting it in spoiler.

 

Spoiler

I'm making a bit of an analysis here, but a more detailed one will of course be possible only when we'll have the whole ranking, but don't forget there's a point score below which analyzing doesn't make much sense, as one vote could move the member several ranks. I'd say the limit would be Asakura Kiki, who got 11 votes (that is 11 people voted for her).

 

    You can say Tsubaki Factory still didn't get that momentum from the fans, as every member from the group is in the 41-82 ranks, with the most ranked one being Kishimoto Yumeno, who had a modest improvement. Overall, if you take the six 1st gen members combined average point score per vote*, it has decreased from last year (-5.3% from 2015 to 2016), but remember what I said in the beginning, we should take those figures really carefully. 

    However, if you take into account the 2nd gen members, the as/v increases (+12,2% from 2015 to 2016), which means either they've succeeded in fitting with the group, or that's a debuting effect (that is people will always be more interested in a member when she'll have debuted than in the KSS period)

 

    While I'm talking about new members, Kasahara Momona is the only member in the 41-82 ranks in Angerme, well that's not surprising, last year, Kamikokuryou Moe was also the only member below the 50th rank.

    

    In a nutshell, members who've had a good or a bad year (from the members for whom this analysis is relevant): 

(members with a as/v increase of more than 30%)

Kishimoto Yumeno, Wada Sakurako, Fujii Rio, Kasahara Momona, Ogata Risa

 

(members with a as/v decrease of more than 30%)

Ogawa Rena, Ozeki Mai, Niinuma Kisora

 

    Globally, you could say that these 41-82 rankings have KSS, Hokkaidou KSS, Tsubaki Factory, the bottom half of Kobushi Factory, and some least popular members from the other groups.

 

*average score per vote (as/v): that's the amount of points one voter gave in average, that is sum of the scores of all the members involved / the number of voters. It doesn't make sense to compare the as/v of different groups, since different groups have different number of members, and groups with more members are more likely to have a greater as/v, but comparing the as/v for the same members from one year to another can help us understand how that group is evolving.

Spoiler

Because this voting system requires a voter to fill in exactly 10 votes, from a group as/v point of view, it makes smaller groups at a disadvantage, for example, you could fill your 10 votes with 10 Morning Musume。 members (as some people did, if I remember correctly), but not with °C-ute members, since they are only 5 (but some voters did fill their first 5 spots to °C-ute members, you know, in that case, you can guess what the "Best group" vote was pretty easily...)

[Fall]

Spoilerception!  I love data points.

 

Spoiler

I think a lot of discrepancies can come from the necessary limitations of the rules.  We have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere, and +10 is as good of a number as any.  The larger the sample, the more accurate it'll be, so if we had done 11 members at +11, it would make for a better data point while comparing odd placements from one year to the next, just like it would be even better if we did +12 or better still with +13, +14, and so on.

 

You never know who someone's 11th or 12th place might be and, as you pointed out, a vote could turn out drastically different than if everyone had even one more point to spend.  If it had been +11, maybe just enough people had a girl out of their top 10 to move her up 3 places, or maybe just enough people loved the Kenshuusei to drop established members below Kaga Kaede even before her announcement to join Momusu.  In many ways, the data we don't see can be every bit as important as what we do.  The system is very great at picking out a top 10, and probably even a fairly accurate look at the top 20, give or take a few places.  It becomes far less accurate after that though and, I agree with the Asakura Kiki example (even though I did give her +2  ), the process just falls apart after ~50 places with little data that could be considered significant within a margin of error if this had been a more expansive voting process.

 

Thankfully though, this is all just for fun and we aren't selecting a parliamentary body where a dastardly Takase Kurumi is deviously scheming to take Yamagishi Riko's place in Tsubaki Factory.   The scandal!

 

Edit: For reasons listed in the spoilers, I actually contemplated doing a little culinaromancy with the numbers for Best Performer.  Since there is only one vote for the categories and that vote becomes much more significant to be worth several places, I thought about giving it to either Nomura Minami or Miyamoto Karin since they were very eligible for it, but probably wouldn't rank very high with the one-vote limitation.  I ended up not doing it after I saw they did get votes and weren't completely overlooked, so I went with my actual choice in the end instead of a strategic choice.

[keaine]

^

Spoiler

I'm not saying that's a bad system, there's no perfect system (thanks to Arrow's impossibility theorem, yeah, once again, I'm a mathematician), what I'm just saying is that with this voting system, we can't compare groups as/v, or putting it in another way, groups as/v aren't a good way to measure groups strengths

[KawaiiLand]

^ ^^ I like reading analysis like that 

[EtherSword]

Maybe we could bump the system to 20 members for next year?

 

Funny seeing the most popular KSS, they were all prime picks from a lot of people rooting for getting into MM, especially for me with a 4/6 of the popular KSS right there. And Kaga Kaede being chosen for MM as the third most popular (of H!O) KSS.

[Fall]

The effort of picking and ordering so many girls could probably be an obstacle for some people's desire to participate in either the vote or the count.  Some people have a hard enough time finding more than one person they want to vote for with all of their entries.  Logistically, it would also make me feel sorry for the counters having so much more data to input.

 

Perhaps if the counters were up to it and the rules allowed for people to be able to stop ranking if they only felt like giving a +20 to one girl or to stop at any other point in the list, it could be a steady compromise.  It just still seems like a recipe for a clerical error waiting to happen between the added complexity in both the rules and the counting.

[minaeshi]

And here we are. The end of 2016 with Hello Project as we know it! A lot has happened during this year. We've said goodbye to two lovely ladies Tamura Meimi and Suzuki Kanon during the end of spring, and then sadly had to say farewell to the very talented Inaba Manaka. Along with the graduation announcements from Tsugunaga Momoko and C-ute, and the additions of new members all over H!P groups, as well as our new H!O leader being announced to be Wada Ayaka of Angerme, 2017 has become a new era for H!O. But before we enter the new era, let's look at who you guys ranked as your top 40 Hello!Project members!

 

CATEGORIES

 

BEST SINGER 

    

2. Oda Sakura with 62 points        |       1. Suzuki Airi with 79 points         |       3. Takagi Sayuki with 22 points

 

BEST DANCER 

          

2. Ishida Ayumi with 64 points   |    1. Inaba Manaka with 91 points     |     3. Nakajima Saki with 29 points

 

BEST PERFORMER

     

2. Suzuki Airi with 40 points    |   1. Satou Masaki with 46 points   |   3. Murota Mizuki with 33 points

 

BEST NEWCOMER

                                    

2. Funaki Musubu with 53 points  |  1. Kamikokuryou Moe with 102 points  | 3. Kasahara Momona and Yanagawa Nanami with 15 points

 

BEST GROUP

2. ANGERME | 44 points             1. Morning Musume'16 | 89 points               3. C-ute | 43 points

 

 

BEST IDOL ON H!O 2016

 C-ute - Morning Musume'15 - ANGERME - Juice=Juice - Country Girls - Kobushi Factory - Tsubaki Factory - Hello!Pro KSS - Hokkaido KSS

 

RANK | MEMBER | NO.OF POINTS |  RANK INCREASE OR DECREASE

(ranks 40-1. ranks 82-41 is in the post above)

 

40. Taguchi Natsumi | 117 points (↑14)

39. Hagiwara Mai | 130 points (↓12)

38. Inoue Rei | 131 points (↓4)

37. Katsuta Rina | 132 points  (↓1)

36. Yanagawa Nanami | 139 points (↑14)

35. Hirose Ayaka | 140 points (↓4)

33. Haga Akane | 166 points (↓8)

33. Nakanishi Kana | 166 points (↓11)

32. Aikawa Maho | 167 points (↑10)

31. Hamaura Ayano | 171 points (↓3)

30. Miyamoto Karin | 179 points (↓1)

29. Takagi Sayuki | 192 points (↓5)

28. Tamura Meimi | 194 points (↓17)

27. Morito Chisaki | 197 points (↑10)

26. Inaba Manaka | 200 points (↓16)

25. Uemura Akari | 205 points (5)

24. Nakajima Saki | 217 points (↑1)

23. Yamaki Risa | 228 points (↑9)

22. Takeuchi Akari | 235 points (↑19)

21. Ogata Haruna | 262 points (↑1)

20. Suzuki Kanon | 264 points (↓13)

19. Nonaka Miki | 269 points (↓7)

18. Ikuta Erina | 274 points (↓4)

17. Kanazawa Tomoko | 276 points (↑2)

16. Okai Chisato | 308 points (↑1)

15. Funaki Musubu | 312 points (↑33)

14. Sasaki Rikako | 315 points (↑1)

13. Yajima Maimi | 319 points (=)

12. Wada Ayaka | 325 points (↑6)

11. Tsugunaga Momoko | 347 points (↑10)

10. Ishida Ayumi | 348 points (↓5)

  9. Iikubo Haruna | 350 points (↑1)

  8. Fukumura Mizuki | 364 points (=)

  7. Makino Maria | 378 points (↑23)

  6. Kamikokuryou Moe | 440 points (↑50)

  5. Murota Mizuki | 456 points (↑11)

  4. Kudou Haruka | 459 points (=)

 

          

     2. Suzuki Airi | 654 points (↑1)      1. Satou Masaki | 767 points (=)         3. Oda Sakura | 560 points (↑3)

 

 

 CONGRATULATIONS SATOU MASAKI    

 

For the Second year in a row, Maachan has managed to grab the hearts of fans in H!O.

How she did it, with all the talk on her lately, I'll never know haha, but congratulations to all who voted for her! It was harder to rank into the top 7 than last year, so again, congratulations if your oshimen made it! Once again, there was many changes in the rankings, some girls made some unexpected drops while others made some surprising gains, but overall, it was a very telling result to the events of this year. Whether your favorite members ranked into the top 40 or not, thank you for taking the time out of your day to vote!

We host these elections in a bid to bring the H!O community together, to look back on the last 365 days of the year, and move forward into the new year with a positive outlook. We're a very loud and opinionated bunch of fans, but I think we're the best international fanbase H!P has, so thank you all for being a part of this community, and I hope with these elections, it will drive even more new fans to the website so we can have even more heated discussions haha.  . 

 

 That's all! Hope you enjoyed it. How did your favorite do?

And so, another year on H!O has come to a close, and another year opens.

What H!P has in store for us is still a mystery, but I'm sure there will be very exciting times ahead of us. 

 

Here is a link to the spreadsheet that includes more data on how many people voted for each member, the complete category rankings, and other general statistics.

voters counted :

[chuchippon]

KAMIKO AT #6?? What a huge jump for her hehe. Im happy how much people admire her after a year of debuting 

[YellowAccel]

Wow +50 for Moe ? 0-0 It's so cool ! She deserves it. And my Oharu is 21th !!!!!! A bit sad for AiAi and Zukki, but it's still good !

[Fall]

I believe there may have been a little bit of a copy error on the link for the categories and statistics spreadsheet.

 

She does it again!  Now I only hope she doesn't break our hearts in 2017.  That would make me very sad, and I want a three-peat.

[minaeshi]

I believe there may have been a little bit of a copy error on the link for the categories and statistics spreadsheet.

 

fixed. thanks for letting us know!