| Oikaze
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Jan 19 2012 05:33 PM
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Akimoto may have proven that his idols can sell more records than Tsunku's, but would a nude pic of him in the shower be as popular? =P
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| Reaper XIII
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Jan 19 2012 06:55 PM
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If he does people are going to stab themselves in the eye with a fork.
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| Ahiko
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Jan 19 2012 08:59 PM
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Yeah i think Tsunku is more stylish than Akimoto.....
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| kyokao
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Jan 20 2012 07:40 AM
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Tsunku is a fun guy. But Akimoto is a true Idolmaster. With him, idols behave like idols (dress like softporn stars, smile stupidly at the cameras and never NEVER pretend to possess any talent).
Tsunku never got it right: he picked truly gifted girls, treated them like artists, and let them run the show. How silly of him...
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| Morning Death
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Jan 20 2012 07:56 AM
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^No AKB girl has dressed in any a way that a H!P girl hasn't before.
AKB is the closest thing there is to how the beginings of Morning Musume were with outspoken girls that are not afraid to let there personalities be shown on camera.
As in H!P there are girls that have talent for singing and for dance and those who don't excell that much when making a comparison.
You know nothing or are having a succesful run in pretending to be an ignorant.
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| stany
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Jan 20 2012 08:31 AM
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Yeah nude pics are the only thing he's better at than Yasusu. :D
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| Garnet Jester
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Jan 20 2012 11:23 AM
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@kyokao: loling forever @ tsunku letting the girls run the show. Just because Takahashi picked the costumes for her last concert doesn't mean that the girls "run the show" especially because not even Tsunku does, but that Naoto person from UFA
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| Vodka
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Jan 20 2012 04:16 PM
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I was amazed at how much creative input the 48 girls have when doing their theatre shows and such. Implying that Aki-P doesn't treat the girls with respect is a little blind...I think.
"(dress like softporn stars, smile stupidly at the cameras and never NEVER pretend to possess any talent)."
A long, LONG time ago, I used to think that way.....but then i decided to take the blinders off and really delve into the 48 world instead of relying on what I was hearing from others around me. Oh boy, was my thinking back then stupid and so far from the truth. I heavily face-palm today a the memories of how silly I used to think.
*shrugs* But hey, you can't win 'em all.
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| Oikaze
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Jan 21 2012 07:20 PM
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Sheesh... I make a joke about a shower pic and it turns into an H!P vs. AKB48 hate-fest... *Facepalm*
A friend put it best: They aren't in the same business. It's comparing proverbial apples to oranges, and as far as I know, the girls from the two groups respect each other... I'm primarily an H!P fan, but can we just tolerate each other please?
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| stany
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Jan 22 2012 12:01 AM
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First of all their positions and real influence in their respective companies are quite different.
Btw after the recent G+ censorship incident and the way it was solved implying that Akimoto doesn't let his girls run the show is not even funny, it's utterly stupid.
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| kyokao
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Jan 25 2012 08:00 AM
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I stand by my comments. I have no sympathy for the guy and his creation.
The yearly girl ranking alone is demeaning. But if it wasn't enough, Akimoto has found a way to milk more cash with a website where fans can post their own pic and see how a baby with their fav member would look like. Beyond gross.
There are stories of fathers who emptied their own kids bank account (savings for college) in order to buy hundreds of CD's and AKB related goods, so they could have more votes in the next election. And some members' dads as well have been known to ask their daughters to take pictures of other members, because they find them cute. Gross, gross, gross!!!
Not that HP is all rosy, but I've never heard similar horror stories in Tsunkuland.
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| magatsu17
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Jan 25 2012 08:55 AM
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^While i'm not a big fan of AKB48, I don't see how you can blame them for what a grown man chooses to do with his own money. Unless they're giving crack out with CD purchases, AKB48 isn't to blame for that. If they can inspire the kind of devotion to do that, them more power to them.
My problems with AKB48 have to do with the fact that most of the time they don't sing their songs live, even though there are so many of them. Also I don't really like the majority of their songs, and while H!P songs grow on me from watching concerts, i can't watch AKB48 concerts cause its mostly lypsyncing.
But i do like quite a few of the girls in AKB48 very much and do watch their TV shows on occasion
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| stany
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Jan 25 2012 09:23 AM
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Lipsyncing is a big wall but once you have climbed over it there's a paradise on the other side. :D
Btw I personally think that the ratio between good/not that good songs is better in AKB48 than H!P.
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| Vodka
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Jan 25 2012 03:24 PM
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I give up trying to reason with people.
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| carrls
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Jan 25 2012 03:51 PM
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^^
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Lipsinging is a given, and you can easily know when they are live because their voices falter a tiny bit ¬¬'... they DO sing live and recently more often than before AKB48 Kouhaku is a recent example, which is great, BUT and that's a big but... Most of the girls, even the not so popular, spent most of the time from photo session to photo session, that's why we see them in every magazine we can think of week after week after week after week... SO... they don't have much time to practice, REHEARSE, which is why they sometime lipsing and many times mess up the dance routines...lack of PRACTICE... AND that's not the girls fault, their management prioritize and schedule session which are more profitable or convenient, maybe not money wise but for presence, that's why we get even AKB48 ramen cups, they are all over the place, even in the soup!!!
That's about the only thing I didn't like about 48ers before too, their poor onstage performance, before I realized this... they lack rehearsal time, and that is a big handycap and still... they do great!!!!
You can also hear about it in one of the making of DVDs from the Yoyogi performance I think... a girl says, Takamina perhaps, don't remember, that she's worried because they've been to so many events that they've had little time to rehearse.
As stany puts it very very very well, that is a big wall but once you get through it there is only haven waiting, just take a look at Ranran if that beutiful being can't convince you to turn to the fortyeight side nothing will!! XD
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