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[8/8] Kobushi Factory 6th Single "Kitto Watashi wa / Naseba Naru"


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#221 Pyo-Kiyo

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Posted 28 September 2018 - 08:02 AM

It's been a while this thread had some updated, so I decided to do a sum up on the Oricon sales.
(Because no matter what you think this single is still charting somehow)  ^-^

Oricon 1st Week
Weekly Rank #5
Sales: 23,117

2nd Week -  #83 (641 copies)
3rd Week -  #106 (664 copies)
Out for one week
4th Week - #147 (242 copies)
5th Week - #193 (151 copies)
6th Week - #109 (342 copies)

Total sales for those 6 weeks it charted: 25,157 copies.

 

Additionally, the single returned to daily charts on 9/26 at #28, so the 7th Week is more or less confirmed.  :good:


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#222 KABTX

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 12:20 AM

It is hard to look at those numbers and not be disappointed. I want them to succeed so much, but it feels like such an uphill battle. Tsubaki is clearly the favored Factory right now. (I will admit, I'm torn between being really happy for Tsubaki for the way they're progressing and being a little jealous and concerned about Kobushi. It's a complicated time for me, damn it!! :D :sob: .)



#223 DiegoKashiwagi

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 01:06 AM

i felt that.

 

 (I will admit, I'm torn between being really happy for Tsubaki for the way they're progressing and being a little jealous and concerned about Kobushi. It's a complicated time for me, damn it!! :D :sob: .)



#224 Fall

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 01:26 AM

In the end, the likely scenarios are that they either stay in H!P for so long with the remaining members that they are elevated by their own legacy (ala Cute), or a second generation will be added.  Neither of which will guarantee further progress.  There almost always seems to be a certain level of stagnation that happens two or three years out from a group's debut, and it usually takes a concerted effort or major event to change that.  Juice=Juice had one, S/mileage, Country Girls, and while they were overshadowed by the recession, both Berryz and Cute had theirs as well before things started to swing around.  Kobushi was just unfortunate to have started theirs in conjunction with an assortment of member issues after nearly a year without a Single release, topped off with other groups, transfers, debuts, and news of future units to divert attention of the fans elsewhere.

 

Right now the momentum may be with Tsubaki, and they may be fortunate enough to maintain their own momentum for a bit longer than is common for H!P groups, but management will eventually do something for Kobushi.  Tsubaki having so much momentum has the potential to stoke the fires under the feet of the Kobushi members as the agency starts pushing the underdog narrative for them as they did with S/mileage when they were told that Juice=Juice may get their first Budokan and leave them behind if they weren't careful.  In a similar fashion to the Year of Cute, all of the events around S/mileage for the next year+ brought momentum back to that group even before the introduction of new members and the name change to Angerme.  At a future date, we could see the start of the Year of Kobushi, for all of the unknowns that it may entail.

 

Although it has unfortunate implications for how it toys with the confidence and dreams of the members, I tend to look at decisions and events in H!P as if it were being booked in the style of a wrestling promotion.  More often than not, it plays out very similarly even if it isn't always quite so dramatic or if the drama isn't always intentional.  Kobushi started strong, people got used to them, other interesting stuff happened, and now they need to work their way back into the spotlight themselves or be given another push.  It's a compelling story that sells tickets.



#225 Ares13

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 06:27 AM

well .. there is no rule to like, be happy or support every group that H!P come out with ..
For other agencies, collectives, projects .. no one support every single group under an umbrella of groups .. so to me H!P is no different ..
I just care for my groups and don't bother about the others .. so I do not have problem as all groups are actually competing with everyone in the industry and not just their project/sisters groups
Furthermore, competition and dreams ain't even the point .. we focus too much on the destination when the journey is what makes it fun :)
Just ask yourself this.. Does the sales, results and promotion of a group you support affects your interest, support and love for the group? .. :P it does not for me :P

#226 patapataful

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 06:39 AM

@fallacia I would give you a like, if I could XD Great speech!!!!! So true!!!


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#227 core2quad

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 01:44 PM

Event V

http://www.helloproject.com/news/9307/
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1.Kitto Watashi wa (Close-up Ver.)
2.Naseba Naru (Hirose Solo Ver.)
3.Naseba Naru (Nomura Solo Ver.)
4.Naseba Naru (Hamaura Solo Ver.)
5.Naseba Naru (Wada Solo Ver.)
6.Naseba Naru (Inoue Solo Ver.)



#228 Pyo-Kiyo

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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:29 PM

Furthermore, competition and dreams ain't even the point .. we focus too much on the destination when the journey is what makes it fun :)
Just ask yourself this.. Does the sales, results and promotion of a group you support affects your interest, support and love for the group? .. :P it does not for me :P

My reply to this is quite late, but I hope you'll forgive me that.  ^-^ I have to agree with the first line - we really should try to cherish the "journey" more. And as you can expect, the answer to your question is obviously no.  ^_^ I love Kobushi for their energy, their chemistry, their supportive songs that always cheer me up, and also for their vocals (& beautiful harmonies which are pleasant to listen to)
However, at the same time I have to be honest that it makes me a bit sad to see their recent sales in comparision to other H!P groups... at least until I play their songs again and find the happiness in what KF does.  :good:
 
Anyway, nice to see that the Event V features solo versions once again (even if only for the fact that Naseba Naru Close up was already released)  :sleep: 

Also, as I mentioned earlier the single charted for 7th week at Oricon, rank #111 with 445 coppies, so they are currently at 25,502 coppies sold in total.


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#229 core2quad

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 12:32 PM

Goods for serial card release event on 10/7 and 10/28
https://www.elineupm...a300798deef50c/
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#230 Pyo-Kiyo

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 01:57 PM

Sales update:

1st Week - #5 (23,117 copies)
2nd Week -  #83 (641 copies)
3rd Week -  #106 (664 copies)
Out for one week
4th Week - #147 (242 copies)
5th Week - #193 (151 copies)
6th Week - #109 (342 copies)
7th Week - #111 (445 copies)

8th Week - #170 (193 copies)
Out for one week
9th Week - #177 (164 copies)

Total sales: 25,859
 
(Rank for one more week, please, to make it ten weeks and 26k!)  ^-^ 


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#231 Ares13

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 10:35 AM

We can buy the event V from e-LineUP!Mall
https://www.elineupm...f-eventv-kitto/

Its something new as they usually don't sell it online as it is only sold during event ..
This has result many times in the past where the fans have to pay ridiculous high price at YAJ ..
I am glad they are selling them online now :)

#232 patapataful

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 12:22 PM

^ only for this release? Maybe they consider it for more :)

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#233 Fluffis

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 03:59 AM

Pretty much all the event v dvds from the recent year or so have gone up on FC orders a bit after the event v events. A Gonna is currently available via FC order. I have bought a few that way. Also the Elu-mall has some event v dvds in stock on their store. I bought Mikaeri Bijin back in 2017 and it is still in stock, same with some Anju and S/m ones, J=J's first tripple a-side and they also have Eejanaika/shalala event v dvd. I would love to see moreon he site of course but it is still pretty nice. 






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