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[Cerulean]

 

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Dude, Park Bom is legit a really bad singer lol. A unique voice isn't necessarily a good one.

She sounds bad only when her lymphs are inflamed...   If you'd bother to read about her disease of course.

 

 

No, she's just a poor singer. Even when your lymph nodes are inflamed, it doesn't effect your breathing technique. And her technique is consistently bad. 

[Xxevilbunnyxx]

Singer

1. Sakura

2. Airi

3. Three way tie

     a) Chisato- I feel that she is on the same level as Airi, however it just seems like something is lacking

      Masaki- She had improved greatly and is starting to find her voice, however I hate when she squeaks at the end of some lines, she's not good at harmonzing with other MM during group or duet as it seem she's a pitch            higher than them

     c) Meimi- she is a belter and can put alot of emotions into her singing, however I think she lacks control and sometimes add to much emotion into a line. For the person that listed her singing Lilium, I think she has more of          a stage/acting voice than a singer voice

4. Momoko- when she sings out of character she is amazing. 

 

Dancer-

1. Riho/ Ayumi/ Manaka

2. Mizuki/ Sakura/ ?/?

3. Saki/Meimi/ Rikako/ Murotan/Airi/ Maimi/

4. MaiMai/ Ikuta

 

That's all I can think of now. 

[kjdofficial]

Former members:

 

Singers

1. Fujimoto Miki

2. Takahashi Ai

3. Goto Maki

 

(Ai is my #1 fave, but I personally think Miki has the best voice)

 

and I also really liked Nakazawa Yuko's voice?? Her voice was my favorite out the first gen members, it's so distinct to me and I love it.

 

Dancers

1. Shimizu Saki

2. Kamei Eri (I can never keep my eyes off of her in Kimagure Princess)

 

Current members:

 

Singers (in no particular order because it's hard for me to choose)

Airi

Chisato

Sakura

Meimi

Maro

Takechan 

Kanatomo

Sayuki
Momo

(and I'm still unsure about Country Girls besides Momo and the Factory groups since they're still new I haven't really listened to them live much)

 

Dancers

Nakky

Maimi

Ayacho

Rikako

Ayumi

Riho

Mizuki

 

I feel like I'm forgetting people though

[LoveRice]

Lot of people creaming over Manaka since that dance group performance. On one performance people are even rating her higher than Riho and Ayumi that's madness .

I think she was an EXILE trainee or something like that.

Girl's good though, even check some of her KSS stuff.

Though, like you said I'm not gonna rate her as high as H!P's top dancers coz of lack of info

[Dobaka]

Hm, I'm not gonna do it in any particular order because it'd be hard, but here's my opinion on the best singers/dancers/actresses currently in Hello! Project (which doesn't affect you in any way, just to clear that up):

 

Singers: Chisa, Meimei, Airi, Sakura, Ayapan, Reirei, Kanatomo 

Dancers: Riho, Ayumi, Manakan, Sayuki, Nacky

Actresses: Duu, Riho, Meimei, Airi, Ayacho

[the rose garden]

Best dancers:
Sayuki - why is nobody mentioning her? Even the members pointed her out to be the best dancer in J=J. She dances with as much as passion as she sings with. And she remembers dance moves really fast.

Huh, quite a few people, including myself, have mentioned her for dancing

[RenaiHunter]

 

Best dancers:
Sayuki - why is nobody mentioning her? Even the members pointed her out to be the best dancer in J=J. She dances with as much as passion as she sings with. And she remembers dance moves really fast.

Huh, quite a few people, including myself, have mentioned her for dancing

 

yeah don't mind me im blind but it's probably because I hardly ever see anyone praising her for her dancing, although it's as much as good as her singing.

 

Thinking about it she is the best singer and dancer of Juice=Juice. A complete ace.

[the rose garden]

I did that in the beginning, also with singing, and then people were always like "no, Karin/Aina are the best blablabla" and then I was just like okay, whatever you say. But yes, she's one of H!P's most well-rounded members, great personality, too.

[Dobaka]

She is one of the best singers/dancers in H!P. I don't find it really pleasant when she screams her notes, though. I don't know why she's taught to do that. Her high notes have been getting so much better, though. 

[GabiUsagi]

Singers:

1. Sakura

(rest not in order, just the runners-up)

- Airi

- Mizuki

- Kanon (she's unfortunately overlooked/ignored by many people)

- Maachan

- Chel

- Meimi

- Tomoko

- Sayuki

- Hirose Ayaka

- Ayano

- Rei

 

Dancers:

1. Riho

2. Manaka

3. Ayumi

4. Nakky

5. Mizuki, Erina (again the ignored member with great potential) & Duu

 

In my opinion the best performer is Momoko

 

It was so difficult to choose 

[Chi99]

Singers:

 

• Sakura
• Chisato 
• Meimi
• Sayuki
• Murotan
• Takechan
• Duu
• Karin
• Fukuchan
• Rei
• Hama chan
• Risa

Performers:

• Riho
• Ayumi
• Maimi
• Ayacho
• Maa
• Momoko
• Rikako
• Manatan
• Chisaki
• Takechan

[MotoHime]

I'm going to name only top 3 in each to make it easier 

 

Singers: Miki, Ayaya and Airi

Dancers: Captain, Nakky and Eri

Performers: Takahashi, Rika and a MiyaMomo tie

 

I'd name Tomoko, Sayuki and Sakura the best newer vocals, Riho and Ayumi the dancers and Meimi the performer. 

[AngelAndz]

Lot of people creaming over Manaka since that dance group performance. On one performance people are even rating her higher than Riho and Ayumi that's madness .

I think she was an EXILE trainee or something like that.
Girl's good though, even check some of her KSS stuff.
Though, like you said I'm not gonna rate her as high as H!P's top dancers coz of lack of info

The girl wearing the black and white costume is Manaka



And in this one Manaka is the girl wearing yellow



It's not so much that there is a lack of info about Manaka's dancing skills, but more of needing to know exactly where to find them If I can find enough videos of her dancing I'll see about making a video compilation of her dancing skills for anyone who would like to see

[Muyim Pimoup]

my top 5 current H!P

 

Singers :

1. Airi

2. Karin

3. Chisato

4. Sakura

5. Murotan

 

Dancers :

1. Riho

2. Ayumi

3. Nakky

4. Manaka

5. Maimai

 

Performers :

1. Rikako

2. Hamachan

3. Maria

4. Airi

5. Riho

[necrosonde]

Meanwhile, I have asked before, but never really an answer, may I ask if there's any videos that really show Saki N.'s dancing? Everytime I see her dance with C-ute, she just doesn't stand out to me..: / but I really wanna acknowledge her skills though...so..just curious...: /

 

 

I'm not a specialist of Nakajima but I remember those performances:

https://www.youtube....h?v=rHAimUc_IWg(enjoy Maimi's voice!)

https://www.youtube....h?v=V8ZwoPUwvi4

 

 

She's my favorite dancer  in °C but it's difficult to stand out in this group when it comes to dance...

[Nichiyoubi ☆★]

Only current ones

 

Singers:

Airi, Chisato, Masaki, Sakura, Sayuki, Murotan

 

Dancer:

Maimi, Saki, Riho, Ayumi, Manakan

 

Performers in general:

Masaki, Maria, Murotan, Momo, Manakan

[Touki]

Here's my list:

 

Singers:

Airi

Sakura

Sayubee

Ayapan

Meimi/Murotan

 

Dancers:

Nakky

Maimi

Ayumin

Riho

Manakan

 

Performers:

Riho

Airi

Murotan

Sayubee

Fuku-chan

[ryu_uchida]

*singing

riho > wada > karin

 

*I place much greater value on expression/flair/emotion/soul than on technical proficiency

 

dancing

riho/manakan (though their styles seem to be quite different) > ayumin

 

performance

riho >>>

[Laharle]

In no order but by skill groups

Singers

• Airi
• Meimi
• Sakura
• Chisato
• Momo
• Maro
• Sayubee
  -----------
• Takechan
• Karin
• Tomoko

I'd also pay attention to Muro and Ayapan, Muro is already obvious to most but I still feel I need to listen more, and Aya sounded super good already. There's some others that I think can convey a lot of emotion but are not there yet technically or I wouldn't include in a best list. And KF has some others like Rei but I need to listen to her more. Then I'm not that fond of Chisato's voice but she's obviously there, and I love Takechan's tone -reason I noticed her- and her singing a lot more than most of the best of best ones, now that she controls her voice better, it's even better. Sayubee and Maro always nail it to me, they are the best with high notes. Both Meimi and Sakura can sing any type of song in high or low notes so that's really impressive, it doesn't matter what it is, they'll deliver. And well Airi yeah ofc.

 

Dancers (I admit I never paid attention to C-ute's or the others dancing)

 

• #1 Manakan
• Riho, Ayumi, Takechan, Murotan (I wouldn't mind adding Fukuchan as well, at times)
   

Performers

 

Murotan is my fave performer I think. She's the most well rounded one to me, the most fun to watch, the one that has both a good voice and good dancing.

 

Others that are pretty good but that I'd highlight them for their facial expressions and not for a well-rounded situation considering dancing and singing are Dawa, Maa-chan. Adding Riho, though in the last concert I couldn't feel her at all, yet she's definitely passionate on stage. Dawa is a bit of a finding, but she's fun to watch. Maa-chan post-Reina/Sayu grad made such a change, she was so off topic in songs except when it came to fun songs, now you can feel her expressions and body movements in serious songs as well, she's amusing to watch.

 

I'm also happy to see Takechan everywhere, with Sakura it was obvious for the singing part but with Take I thought she was more overlooked, doesn't seem to be the case.

[☆RisaReinaSayu☆]

Right now the best overall performers IMHO are the girls from C-ute. As a group they just dwarf everyone else. Within MM Riho is where its at overall. Sometimes Ayumi will make more of a splash in the dancing department than Riho & sometimes Sakura will make more of a splash in the singing department than Riho but as a whole package Riho easily takes the cake IMHO. Ayumi's voice still has some growing to do in terms of how far she can stretch it technique wise to contend with Sakura or Riho & also Fuku-hime in the singing department, but Sakura can't really contend with Ayumi in the dancing department which is why her overall package doesn't quite reach Riho's level IMHO. Sakura can do everything Ayumi does dance wise, just not with the same level of confidence or as naturally IMHO

Fuku-hime has come a long way as an overall performer since she started to seriously stand out in Wagamama Ki no Mama Ai no Joke, but she's still got some work to do to surpass the overall package that Riho offers too. On some days she's better than Sakura to me & on some days Sakura's better than her to me. Ayumi falls somewhere between them overall IMHO as there are days where those two manage to surpass her even in the dancing department which is her strongest point & general area of expertise, but she's not too far behind. Like them, I can only see her going up from where she is over the next several years.

Suzuki Kanon & Ikuta Erina are fun to watch because they're such troopers. They try to keep up & stand out because of how much their effort is showing. They need to work on making their effort seem more natural as right now they're trying a little too hard at times. Once they find a balance they'll be able to offer a much better overall package. Over with the other 10th gen MM we have Masaki who can really deliver some of the best singing & dancing in the group when she wants to. I think she just needs to work on being more consistent to provide a better overall package as a performer. I think this goes for Iikubo as well. Kudou I feel is more consistent than both Masaki & Iikubo, but is in the same place as them. All three need to get their issues with consistency under control to offer a better overall package.

I covered Sakura in this post already so moving on to 12th gen...Hm; I can't really say much. Right now they are still in the "just there" phase. Makino Maria shows a lot of promise to be a contendor as an overall performer in a few years, right now she's that diamond in the rough who hasn't quite been perfectly cut. If my suggestions could ever reach her I'd advise her to work on her body language, refining her singing skills, & making her dancing "pop" so it stands out amongst the rest. Ogata Haruna, Nonaka Miki, & Haga Akane eventually need to work on this as well, but first I think they need to work on integrating themselves into the group. They tend to appear out of place, like they don't know how or where they fit into the equation yet, so I'm guessing that behind the scenes they still haven't found their place in the "family" so to speak. They either need to learn to hide this or actually find their place so they can get down to more important business.

Despitre the 12th gen dragging them down a bit I feel like MM are still better as an overall group package than the likes of ANGERME & Juice=Juice. Country Girls, Kobushi Factory, & Tsubaki Factory are still so new. They have plenty of potential, but how they stand up in relation to MM or the even more superior (IMHO) C-ute remains to be seen. I expect Momoko to bring Country Girls up to par sooner rather than later which will leave Kobushi Factory & Tsubaki Factory to observe. I'll be watching them during 2016 for sure.