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It’s not just IcheVermisse, I actually say that every time I see a “... deserves...” comment. But the fact is I only see what I see, and you only see what you see, so it looks like I’m picking on Iche for some reason, which I was not. That’s why I said “broken record”
FWIW “she deserves” sounds like “Santa Claus should give her” to my ears. And yes this is a personal issue, and yes I’m trying to change the way people talk, not because they’re out of the mainstream, but because the mainstream does not think about this usefully and propagates a ridiculous mode of thought about one’s personal desires and value judgements.
In all honesty, it’s not like I’m making some structurally sound academic argument against the phrasing. If you look you’ll see a dozen places I use the same foundation all over the place. IcheVermisse “merits” etc. but I spam “there is no deserve” because I think most people know that they’re saying “I wish” but begging important questions beyond simple statements of opinion (which usually hold the assumption that others agree, so “she’s pretty” rather than “I think she’s pretty”) . “She’s pretty enough to do fashion modeling” is fundamentally the same opinion as “she deserves to be a fashion model” and both are known to be personal opinions, but one assumes not just that one’s own opinions are correct, but also that the world (and particularly show biz) fundamentally rewards XYZ and it does not. So beyond an opinion about Kasahara, it also demands buy-in on a childish world-view.
Maybe (probably) you don’t give a hoot and probably you’re going to ignore me and say deserve, and I’m going to say there is no deserve, and the world will keep turning.
FWIW “she deserves” sounds like “Santa Claus should give her” to my ears. And yes this is a personal issue, and yes I’m trying to change the way people talk, not because they’re out of the mainstream, but because the mainstream does not think about this usefully and propagates a ridiculous mode of thought about one’s personal desires and value judgements.
In all honesty, it’s not like I’m making some structurally sound academic argument against the phrasing. If you look you’ll see a dozen places I use the same foundation all over the place. IcheVermisse “merits” etc. but I spam “there is no deserve” because I think most people know that they’re saying “I wish” but begging important questions beyond simple statements of opinion (which usually hold the assumption that others agree, so “she’s pretty” rather than “I think she’s pretty”) . “She’s pretty enough to do fashion modeling” is fundamentally the same opinion as “she deserves to be a fashion model” and both are known to be personal opinions, but one assumes not just that one’s own opinions are correct, but also that the world (and particularly show biz) fundamentally rewards XYZ and it does not. So beyond an opinion about Kasahara, it also demands buy-in on a childish world-view.
Maybe (probably) you don’t give a hoot and probably you’re going to ignore me and say deserve, and I’m going to say there is no deserve, and the world will keep turning.
