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[maora]

I'm more of an NCT DREAM stan, but 127 finally caught my eye with "LIMITLESS." Tbh, I didn't like "Cherry Bomb" at first, but now I'm addicted to it. I find myself saying "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands yo" more often now.

[minaeshi]

i'm more of a fan of U and DREAM, but 127 are growing on me too~ 

 

Cherry Bomb is very hit and miss tho, sometimes i'm like "IF YOU'RE HAPPY AND YOU KNOW IT CLAP YOUR HANDS" and other times i'm like "ugh no" welp

[taylorniw]

Are y'all serious? Cherry Bomb is the worst trash I've ever heard and I have zero taste.

[ShiningLight445]

I'm not a fan of Cherry Bomb either 0 Mile is probably the best song on their recent release imo

[maora]

I acknowledge it being a shit song. It's more of a guilty pleasure for me. Same thing happened with Rookie. (SM needed better lyricist. )

[wahodes]

LOL what???? are you guys serious? Please tell me on what grounds is it a shit song? Just because it doesn't follow the typical verse, chorus, bridge format it's bad? I liked it from the first listen and it's actually different from so much of the crap that Kpop is putting out these days. At least SM is trying something different with them. Of course you guys are entitled to your opinion I just think you're dismissing it too quickly. Also you should listen to the rest of the mini album, every song is a bop. 

[xeluneas]

I only like Cherry Bomb because I like the NCT members and I made myself listen to it until I liked it. But it's still definitely not a song I'd listen to for fun. 

 

I've gotten very picky about music lately for some reason and I can't stand a lot of kpop songs anymore. Pentagon's newest title track did nothing for me. Same with iKON and I loved their first album. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

On the other hand, I loved all the songs that were released this season on Produce 101 and I'm pretty excited for Wanna One's debut.

[maora]

I'm still sad about Jonghyun not making it, but I'm excited for Wanna-One.

[xeluneas]

^
Samuel was my #1 and the two HOTSHOT members were my #2 and #3. So, I was pumped Sungwoon got #11 but Jonghyun not making it shocked me hugely. It still has me like ????? 

[minaeshi]

I truly felt like boycotting Wanna One because of Jonghyun not making it lmao.. I've been rooting for JR since Face and i just want to see him do well ;~; 

At the same time, i think Nu'est will be fine now since they have the new found recognition, so it's going to be easier for them to gain support with their next comeback! 

 

Still excited for Wanna One but nothing can beat I.O.I lol. I hope they collaborate tho 

[ajma93632]

I truly felt like boycotting Wanna One because of Jonghyun not making it lmao.. I've been rooting for JR since Face and i just want to see him do well ;~; 

At the same time, i think Nu'est will be fine now since they have the new found recognition, so it's going to be easier for them to gain support with their next comeback! 

 

Still excited for Wanna One but nothing can beat I.O.I lol. I hope they collaborate tho 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling that way, Mnet played dirty at the final by revealing the places from 11th to 14th, instead of just the 11th like the previous season. Just beacuse of that Jonghyun and Dongho didn't make it to the top 11. I'm still depressed about that. TBH I stopped listeing to P101 songs, instead I listen to NU'EST's songs now

[ShiningLight445]

About Cherry Bomb mini album:

It isn't a bad song, just the hip hop style to it isn't something I normally listen to. It's a very distinct sound that NCT is trying to use. Which isn't bad, by any means. When it came out I did listen to the others and that's why 0 Mile is the song I like most on the mini album

 

 

I wonder if they will have a Produce 101 season 3. I'm sure they will run out of creative ways to use 101 in the group name

[ajma93632]

I may sound selfish but I don't want Wanna One to have the level of success Mnet expects, so don't make a season 3.

[minaeshi]

^I actually want them to make a season 3, and for it to be 50 girls and 50 boys, and then the last 1 be an idol that's already debuted before 

 

could you imagine the drama??? i'm here for it lmao 

[aira慶一郎]

Are y'all serious? Cherry Bomb is the worst trash I've ever heard and I have zero taste.

+1 i didnt like it too 

im not nct fan but i like DREAM songs

[ajma93632]

^I actually want them to make a season 3, and for it to be 50 girls and 50 boys, and then the last 1 be an idol that's already debuted before 

 

could you imagine the drama??? i'm here for it lmao 

 

Even tough I'd like to see the drama, I feel the P101 needs to stop if Mnet is going to keep manipulating the voting system and giving external promotion (out of Mnet) like they did with the Showtime team so their faves can win. Sorry, thinking about the final still makes me feel depressed.

[xeluneas]

I'll be honest, I didn't think the voting was manipulated at all. The only difference from this season from last was that we didn't go to the number 1 fixed pick right away. Instead we went from top 11, top 2, and then final pick. I think that definitely kept the show interesting and really reflected on the boy's popularity at the elimination rounds. Although, revealing the top 11-14 during the finale was a bit weird. But I don't think it affected anyone that much. (Samuel and Jonghyun in mind.) 

Screentime doesn't mean much to me. Some people who got loads of screentime got eliminated early on or didn't even make the final group despite making it to the end. Whereas some people with little to no screentime made it pretty far. (lol Kenta)

 

Showtime team was done dirty though. They did a hidden camera for Sanggyun's birthday and they also filmed a challenge where they had to go out into the public. Neither of those made it into the final episode. Not even them in the recording studio was put into the episode. All my faves were in Showtime, so sometimes I can't tell if I'm being biased or not but they really were thrown underneath the bus in this one. 

 

The only thing I don't like about PD101 is the evil editing. The girls and boys all get along fairly well and have a lot of fun. It's sad to see mnet try and edit them badly for views and suspense

 

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http://optimushwang....ryone-but.html 

 

This was also an interesting article. Makes me kind of anxious for Seventeen, especially since Pledis decided to ship them overseas on a world tour with tiny venues. (RIP EBS, probably gonna become EBW now since Produce 101 was a HUGE hit with middle schoolers)

[ajma93632]

I'll be honest, I didn't think the voting was manipulated at all. The only difference from this season from last was that we didn't go to the number 1 fixed pick right away. Instead we went from top 11, top 2, and then final pick. I think that definitely kept the show interesting and really reflected on the boy's popularity at the elimination rounds. Although, revealing the top 11-14 during the finale was a bit weird. But I don't think it affected anyone that much. (Samuel and Jonghyun in mind.) 

 

Gonna share this:

 

 

Because you know, it makes sense and it's natural that those 4 who were showed in the middle of the voting would increase their votes. And by simple math the two (almost three) of the first (for me real) top 11 were dropped out of it. So the consequence of that 4 members reveal was that Jisung and Jinyoung entered but Jonghyun and Dongho dropped out of the top 11. If Mnet only showed the 11th place like in the season 1 then the top 11 wouldn't have changed. What Mnet did it's like if AKS just would have showed the Under Girls and place  16th in the Preliminary of the AKB's SSK. Those who follow AKB, just imagine the consequences. Also by changing the voting system to 2-pick before the final was also b***s**t, because it didn't show the real popularity of each trainee, which would have been showed if it'd had been individual like in sean 1. 

 

The saddest part is that Jisung and Jinyoung have gotten hate because of that, even tough it's clear they are not the ones to blame.

 

BTW Dongh's father passed away in a car accident, may he rest in peace, and wish strength for Dongho.

[xeluneas]

Okay, I'm already going to cancel that picture from the discussion because it's an instagram screenshot with literally no sources on the ranks. It wasn't revealed at all that Jonghyun and Dongho were in the top 11, especially those specific ranks. (10, 9). The only ranks revealed were the 4 at the start, and Minhyun at 11 later on, and the final ranks. There's no source on any of other ranks. (Like where does someone get the idea none of the bottom 5 moved around between themselves? Where was it even said that Sungwoon was 7 and dropped to 11? He could have been 15 and then jumped to 11 because viewers liked him as center for all we know.)

 

There's a lot of factors that went into voting this season that decided the ranks. When I said the voting wasn't manipulated, I meant overall, not just the finale. 

• Top 11 voting was the voting method for the first two elimination rounds. There was a lot of changes in these first two rounds with the top 11. (Ex: Samuel, and Jisung making it the first time but not the second time. Youngmin only making it in the second time.) People could have picked Jisung and Samual a lot the first round of voting, maybe not as their number 1, but as their #7 or #10. Trainees like Jonghyun and Guanlin probably became more liked later on and people picked them to include in their top 11. Again maybe not as their #1 but probably as their #5 or #8 for example. Same with Youngmin. 
• Top 2 was the voting method for the third elimination round. This could explain why Guanlin dropped down to #20 and why Youngmin dropped out the top 11 completely. If they were people's #7 pick, they obviously didn't get that vote this round because those people would have only voted for their top #2. Which would explain why people like Jonghyun dropped, Daniel went to #1, Jinyoung, Woojin, and Sungwoon made top 11, and why Jisung and Samuel went back to the top 11. 
• Top 1 voting was the last voting method + there was live voting where one live/text vote = 7 votes. Samuel could have been a lot of people's #2 pick. Which is why he dropped out of the top 11. The finale episode was the most viewed episode of the season. A lot of people could have just turned on the TV to watch the finale and decided to vote. (Which wouldn't surprise me based on the increase in ratings from ep 10 to ep 11.) Some people could have voted for someone who was amazing on stage. Sungwoon and Jinyoung were AMAZING centers. That would have caught someone's eye and made them vote for them. Maybe people really liked Jaehwan's vocals and voted for him because he stood out. (I'm biased to Samuel but he didn't stick out on stage during Super Hot. He kind of just blended in. I think small things like that affected him and other trainees with the same problem.) There was so many factors that would have influenced the way people voted.
• International fans couldn't vote this year. 

Season 1 was very consistent with the top 11 whereas this season was all over the place. This season was more popular than last season. I don't think you can compare to what happened this season to last season and expect things to end up the same. Because of the change in voting methods, it's almost impossible to sit here and say voting was manipulated. 

 

Disclaimer: All the examples I gave next to the bullets are hypothetical. I'm not saying it's 100% what happened, but situations like that could have been possibilities. 

 

Also, I don't follow AKB at all and I know nothing about them, so I don't understand the last point you were making.  

[xraburiix]

Just cuz someone posted something on the internet doesn't make it automatically true. That screenshot looks like speculation tbh. I haven't seen anyone talking about those numbers on any PD news account so...? lmao