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[ALBUM] NMB48 2nd Album - Sekai no Chuushin wa Osaka ya 〜 Nanba Jichiku 世界の中心は大阪や ~なんば自治区~ (2014.08.13)

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#41 gryzze

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:35 AM

1st round handshake event results: 
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I think something needs to be done unless they want NMB to be just Sayanee because these numbers are just crazy.

Those with less slots should be able to sell out one slot much easier than her and yet they can't sell out a single one but she sold out all.

I think they should try what HKT has been doing. Let the popular members take a step back and put someone else at the front.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:00 PM

Yeah it's ridiculous. I had to re-read the above a few times before I understood what I was actually seeing. They need to re-evaluate what they're doing and what's going on.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:26 PM

I don't see it as a big deal necessarily. As well, what can be done short of AKB style pushes which are the worst anyway and ruined Jo's career. It's not as if Sayaka's popularity has a negative effect on everyone else either. They're still getting tons of work and making lots of appearances sans her. It'd be nice if more girls were on Sayaka's level, but it's not like you can just say, "We've got enough Sayaka fans, support Aika instead" nor is it some grand Yoshimoto scheme to only promote one member.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

But it's a scary prospect that there's pretty much just one girl that is rock solid in NMB48. After Milky's stupid scandal, her popularity took a hard hit. And who else are there? Not many, at least not from this first round and its results. Of course there's Shuu, Yuuri, etc. but these girls needs to be more known. 

 

What happens to NMB48 the day Sayanee graduates, which honestly could just as well be tomorrow as it could be in 2-3 years...



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

I'm not saying Sayanee should be repressed or held back but they need to get better at promoting the other members.

I don't think her popularity would take a hit if she was on the 2nd row in a single for example. That's why I took HKT as an example. The three most popular members are not in the front and it doesn't seem to affect their popularity negatively.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:15 PM

I agree... even though I suspect that is an unintended effect of the pushes in HKT. That being said, HKT has put members forward quite differently than the other groups, for instance the kenkyuuseis has been more "in use" in performances imo. And the differences between member and kenkyuusei are far less in HKT than in the other groups, as I see it.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:22 PM

What helps with HKT48 is that they managed to front a lot of the girls from early on when they were smaller in numbers, and rotated doing this, and that strategy has continued, even with third generation girls entering. Of course NMB48 as a whole is larger, and they have been around for longer too, but I do think HKT48's way of doing things is ultimately superior in comparison. And again, compare number of girls that graduates from NMB48 yearly with how things are in HKT48. It's completely different.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:40 PM

Yes, the graduations are symptomatic, I think. Especially with the number of kenkyuuseis graduating this year from NMB (and SKE as well).

The feeling of not getting anywhere no matter how hard they work and how good they perform, makes it that much easier to choose education etc

over staying on, I reckon.

 

I think NMB should, as some of you said, actually push more members forward when it comes to singles. I don't think a single with a double center of for instance Uuka and Shuu (just an example) would put a nail in NMB's coffin. I think that would increase sales, if only for the novelty of it. Nor would Sayaka choose to graduate over that alone, in fact I think she would be understanding about it or even support it.

 

Anyways, they need to do something, as Kaneko Takeshi mentioned after the sousenkyo.

Maybe he should center the next single, with his ukulele and halo  :lol:   that would be thinking outside the box!


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

NMB KKS are in many ways treated as regulars as well. Megumin is in more Team N performances than Chuba while Yamarina and Nattsu are very visible among YNN stuff with Chiho appearing on tv shows. Jo obviously is only a KKS by choice, but she's got maybe the most lucrative opportunity of any 48 girl right now with her daytime drama.

Another thing to consider is Sayaka being so popular, many NMB fans may have opted to make handshake plans for her ahead of their oshimen knowing she'd sell out in the first round. I'll wait to see future rounds, but basically, I don't feel the entire group is unsustainable without her. They'll still have Yoshimoto backing which creates opportunities in a self sustaining region. Things are fine even if they appear to be way off base from the other 48 groups.
In addition to that, there was apparently a 10 ticket limit for the first round, which would explain some things as well.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:24 AM

 

Team M video. This is probably the best video of the three, but I think I'm weighing that on the hotness ratio of the members in this video (like...Fuu-chan...Jeeez! Share a little with the rest of us..). You could screen cap this video for months everyone's so hot.  :lol: Plus all that lens flare.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:53 PM

http://www.nmb48.com.../2nd_album.html

Track listings and album covers. As well, Sayaka will have a solo song and Yukirin and Milky will have a duet.

2nd Album
世界の中心は大阪や ~なんば自治区~
通常盤Type-N【CD+2DVD】
CD 
01 イビサガール
02 僕らのユリイカ
03 カモネギックス
04 高嶺の林檎
05 “生徒手帳の写真は気に入っていない”の法則
06 電車を降りる/Team N
07 奥歯 /白組
08 どしゃぶりの青春の中で/白組
09 プロムの恋人/白組
10 抱きしめたいけど
11 一週間、全部が月曜日ならいいのに・・・
12 サングラスと打ち明け話/研究生
13 時間は語り始める
14 カモネギックス<Remo-Con REMIX>
15 君と出会って僕は変わった
DVD (DISC A)
01 イビサガール(ミュージックビデオ)
02 イビサガール(ミュージックビデオ ダンシングバージョン)
03 電車を降りる/Team N(ミュージックビデオ)
04 イビサガール特典映像~小谷里歩がスカイダイビングに挑戦!~
05「ここにだって天使はいる」公演/Team N -2014.3.25-
DVD (DISC B)
01 NMB48リクエストアワー セットリストベスト50 2014(50位〜34位)
02 特典映像1 「おしゃべり組2」 <前編>
03 特典映像2 はじめてのぶらり1人旅 <太田夢莉 編>

世界の中心は大阪や ~なんば自治区~
通常盤Type-M【CD+2DVD】

CD
01 イビサガール
02 僕らのユリイカ
03 カモネギックス
04 高嶺の林檎
05 “生徒手帳の写真は気に入っていない”の法則
06 夏の催眠術/Team M
07 ひな壇では僕の魅力は生きないんだ/難波鉄砲隊其之参
08 思わせ光線/紅組
09 山へ行こう/難波鉄砲隊其之伍
10 ピーク
11 一週間、全部が月曜日ならいいのに・・・
12 サングラスと打ち明け話/研究生
13 時間は語り始める
14 カモネギックス<Remo-Con REMIX>
15 君と出会って僕は変わった
DVD (DISC A)
01 イビサガール(ミュージックビデオ)
02 イビサガール(ミュージックビデオ ダンシングバージョン)
03 夏の催眠術/Team M(ミュージックビデオ)
04 イビサガール特典映像~小谷里歩がスカイダイビングに挑戦!~
05 「アイドルの夜明け」公演/Team M -2014.4.1-
DVD (DISC B) 
01 NMB48リクエストアワー セットリストベスト50 2014(33位〜17位)
02 特典映像1 「おしゃべり組2」 <後編>
03 特典映像2 はじめてのぶらり1人旅 <白間美瑠 編>

世界の中心は大阪や ~なんば自治区~
通常盤Type-B【CD+2DVD】
CD
01 イビサガール
02 僕らのユリイカ
03 カモネギックス
04 高嶺の林檎
05 “生徒手帳の写真は気に入っていない”の法則
06 君にヤラレタ/Team BⅡ
07 もう裸足にはなれない/難波鉄砲隊其之四
08 野蛮なソフトクリーム/紅組
09 水切り/紅組
10 ハートの独占権
11 一週間、全部が月曜日ならいいのに・・・
12 サングラスと打ち明け話/研究生
13 時間は語り始める
14 カモネギックス<Remo-Con REMIX>
15 君と出会って僕は変わった
DVD (DISC A) 
01 イビサガール(ミュージックビデオ)
02 イビサガール(ミュージックビデオ ダンシングバージョン)
03 君にヤラレタ/Team BⅡ(ミュージックビデオ)
04 イビサガール特典映像~小谷里歩がスカイダイビングに挑戦!~
05 「ただいま恋愛中」公演/Team BⅡ -2014.3.24-

DVD (DISC B) 
01 NMB48リクエストアワー セットリストベスト50 2014(16位〜1位)
02 特典映像1 「おしゃべり組2」 <前編>

世界の中心は大阪や ~なんば自治区~
劇場盤【CD】
CD
01 イビサガール
02 僕らのユリイカ
03 カモネギックス
04 高嶺の林檎
05 “生徒手帳の写真は気に入っていない”の法則
06 想像の詩人/研究生
07 届かなそうで届くもの
08 サングラスと打ち明け話/研究生
09 傘はいらない
10 時間は語り始める
11 一週間、全部が月曜日ならいいのに・・・
12 さや姉
13 カモネギックス<Remo-Con REMIX>
14 君と出会って僕は変わった

#52 dev-null

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 07:13 PM

I'm still rather undecided if I shall order this or not. To stop or not to stop having a perfect NMB48 CD collection... that's the question. :o


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#53 AragonDx

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 02:26 AM

^

if you're a collector. you should buy it. If you just want to enjoy the song, you should still buy it :lol:


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#54 satchan

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 06:10 AM

^ I like that train of thought! :D



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:32 AM

Sayaka's solo song is :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good:



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Posted 12 August 2014 - 03:08 PM

Got my copies of the album. Great packaging again, each version comes with a photo (first time!) and school ID cards for two members.

 

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The school ID cards are pretty neat, just because you get old photos of everyone, I'm not sure if they're junior high photos or high school photos, but here are some more.

http://nmb48mtm.com/...s/39599852.html

 

I got Chiho/Murashige and Miru/Konomin in addition to what's on the matome. Getting Kaneko would be awesome, but the novelty would quickly wear off when I realize I could've had Fuuchan/Moka instead.  :lol:



#57 satchan

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:40 AM

 

I don't care about the Oricon anymore, but this is a nice video.

 

Oh, Haruna and Chuba OTP? I wasn't aware of that one.  :lol: The back with Ayatin, Yamarina, and Yuumin is great too.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:47 AM

Oh, Oricon... #1 with 228,151 copies sold. Forgot about that :)



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 04:00 PM

And #1 again today with 19,476 sold.

 

A good result so far!

 

I like Ibiza Girl, but that guy in the PV is really annoying to watch. Especially that scene with the graffiti *shudders*

 

A little off topic, but when their first album came out last year and sold what it did, I wondered why SKE's album didn't sell as high.


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#60 satchan

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:46 PM

SKE released theirs the same week as their single, plus, outside of the awesome music video DVD, it was about the laziest release ever.

I'm curious about the Soundscan numbers on this album.




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