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[Happy Now?]

I totally caved, and I regret NOTHING! It was amazing. 

 

I would have liked to wait, but there were just way too many spoilers floating around, and I didn't want to ruin the ending. I think I've said this before, but for TV shows, movies, etc, I don't even like to watch previews. And for something like this, something that I've been waiting months to see, I really didn't want to know the ending outside of just watching it. 

 

I understood it well enough, but I'm still looking forward to the subtitles to clear up some details. 

[beyooooonk]

Everyone's caving! I kinda wish I could watch it before the NYC concert (or on the car ride there) but the fact that someone even IS subbing this is wonderful. I've seen some accidental spoilers (thanks, Facebook and icons of H!O users! ) but I can guess that Duu has a critical part in the evilness of this play... I can't wait! Thanks Estrea and I hope you feel better!

[Happy Now?]

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Yeah, that was my cue. When I saw that H!O icon, I was just like, "NOPE", and I knew I had to watch it. It had gone too far! lol

[KuronoKame]

Duu reached a certain level of insanity (once Hitoribocchi no Snow starts because that's when things start to go downhill) that it's visible in her eyes. That's amazing for a fourteen year old and someone playing an opposite gender. Meimei, too. Those two just won me over with their performances (I'm not being biased either. Those two are my oshis in Momusu and S/mileage respectively. The dhampir line is the best!)

 

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But I guess insanity's a given for someone who's been living for 3000 years. False didn't ask for that kind of life to begin with after all.

[Aeria]

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I think Duu's character is called Farrus. That's what the kanji says anyway, and that's what they call him.

[KuronoKame]

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I think Duu's character is called Farrus. That's what the kanji says anyway, and that's what they call him.

 

Um, no. Duu's character is named False. It stands for False Bindweed (which I believe is also another name for Morning Glory. All I know is that the scientific name is Calystegia). Remember, all of the characters' names are flowers. It's pretty weird that the katakana translates to something else (which is pretty easy to mistake as Farrus and it also translates to something very... disturbing if you were to put his katakana name in google translate) but in the official pamphlet it does say "Haruka Kudo as False"

[Juandalyn]

Well, ファルソ (faruso) can be read as both Farrus and False. False, since there is no real "l" sound in Japanese and consonants (except for "n") can't stand alone.

In the idea of flower names, False for False Bindweed makes more sense.

[Aeria]

Yeah, I forgot flowers, False does make a lot of sense.

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There's one thing that get's me confused. What was in that book Cherry and the others find? They were speaking fairly quick. All I got that it wasn't good and that it made Silane VERY mad.

 

Again, thanks to anybody who can explain it.

[KuronoKame]

It's ファルス (Fa-ru-su), btw. 

 

Yeah, I forgot flowers, False does make a lot of sense.

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There's one thing that get's me confused. What was in that book Cherry and the others find? They were speaking fairly quick. All I got that it wasn't good and that it made Silane VERY mad.

 

Again, thanks to anybody who can explain it.

 

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The book that Cherry and the others found was a book listing all the names of the past residents of the Clan (aka the people False pretty much experimented on). They find Sylvatica's name crossed out, I believe, but all the others' names are in there as well as several other names that are crossed out as well. There was also the 800-year old picture with Lily and Snow attached to the back of the book.

[Sky☆Dancer]

This is literally a conversation of spoilers and I am so tempted to read them!! Let this be the one plot twist I don't spoil for myself

I agree, the temptation is so strong >.< But with next to no Japanese skills, I would get lost very easily. I mean from expression and tone of voices I could sort of follow along but not as well as knowing what is being said. I have listen to some songs. I did get this idea from watching the "Princess Marguerite" song and the translation. So the "I'm the cutest" ego has been passed from Rika (maybe she got it from older member, but I know it for sure started with her) to Sayumi, but what if Masaki inherited this? Her character (or at least from the song) seemed to be a pretty arrogant one and Masaki seemed to play it pretty well.

[Happy Now?]

The "I'm the cutest" ones right now are Eripon and Duu.   It kind of seems like Eripon's just exaggerating it for her character, but Duu just thinks it's a matter of fact.   I'm not arguing. 

[KuronoKame]

 I did get this idea from watching the "Princess Marguerite" song and the translation. So the "I'm the cutest" ego has been passed from Rika (maybe she got it from older member, but I know it for sure started with her) to Sayumi, but what if Masaki inherited this? Her character (or at least from the song) seemed to be a pretty arrogant one and Masaki seemed to play it pretty well.

 

 

I think it was said that Marguerite was based on Maachan herself, so I guess before things go downhill, Maachan didn't have that much to do in terms of acting. It's like she was just given lines to memorize and got told to be herself. Too much Maachan

[amberjack]

Maachan didn't have that much to do in terms of acting.

 

What! Come on, you can't just simplify things like that. First of all we don't even know if Maa-chan's whole personality as an idol is an act or not. Secondly, she still had lines to remember, all of which were executed perfectly.

[Happy Now?]

Real spoiler:

 

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Marguerite's really one of those 'love to hate them' characters. What an annoying little brat. One of my favorite parts was Marigold going crazy and biting her and her whole crew.   Sweet justice! 

 

But, with that type of character, you really dislike them, but when they get what's coming to them, it's like the best thing ever.

[Aeria]

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Exactly. I felt bad for Marigold. She just wanted Lily happy. So she killed Snow, which really did push False to go insane and then killed Marigold. 

 

But everybody killing themselves in the end (minus False) and Lily's screaming as she tried to kill herself. That was the worse part. Also, Riho's my oshimen, hearing my oshimen scream like that didn't help the situation either.

 

Also, the Camellia and Sylvatica duet was perfect. I cried really hard right there.

 

In the end, no flower blooms eternally, they all will wither away eventually.  

Er... I was going to watch it again, but after it kept me up all night (watching it in a dark room, at night, with earbuds in at a high volume wasn't my brightest idea), I'll just wait till morning. But I'm still not back to reality. All I thought about today was Lilium.

[avanpiper]

 

Maachan didn't have that much to do in terms of acting.

 

What! Come on, you can't just simplify things like that. First of all we don't even know if Maa-chan's whole personality as an idol is an act or not. Secondly, she still had lines to remember, all of which were executed perfectly.

 

Even though Marguerite was overflowing with Maachan for me, I actually quite enjoy every scene she had even if very limited. I thought she did well for her parts too, but then all I saw was really just Maachan in real life put on stage Not necessarily a bad thing either because that character was meant to be like that. In terms of acting, I can't judge yet unless she's given an entirely different character in the future. Funny thing is, I didn't find her annoying at all

[Estrea]

Oh hi! Everyone's so worked up over this. My work here is done muahahaha (ok, not done until subs are released, I admit).

 

Progress report: 

- My partner had to re-time a lot of the lines because the DVD audio threw things off. So, delay.

- Audio commentary still not done translating, I'm about halfway now though.

 

 

Also, BREAKING NEWS:

The TRUMP series is now a saga. I'm not kidding. There are a total of 7 other plays he is planning for the series, which started with TRUMP, and continued in Lilium this year. We have SPECTER next year, and a direct sequel to Lilium at a yet unannounced date. And many many more.

 

The play titles and the summaries in spoiler tags below.

 

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TRUMP (2013): Story of Sophie Anderson

Lilium (2014): Story of Lily, and what happened to Sophie Anderson

SPECTER (2015):  Story of the conflict between humans and vampires, and the role of vampire hunters

Snow, Moon and Flowers (TBA): Direct sequel to Lilium

COCOON: (TBA): Story of how Raphel and Angelico became bitter enemies (characters in TRUMP)

OTHELLO (TBA): Story of young Lord Dali and his work with the Blood Agency and how Ul came to be born

FALSE OF VAMP (TBA): A three-parter series detailing how the first TRUMP created the first immortal vampires, and their eventual destruction.

 

I guess I know what I'm doing with my life for the next 7 years.

[wahodes]

^dude you should get paid for all this work you do omg. Meanwhile its getting increasingly difficult to pass by all the videos/gifsets/photosets/people raging about how good it is, being posted on tumblr..but I will endure it!! It'll be worth it in the end. 

[KuronoKame]

Too excited for SPECTER and Snow, Moon, Flowers. I don't think I can handle seeing Lord Dali after what I've witnessed in TRUMP, though. 

 

I've been too lazy to make gifs for tumblr, so count me out on those. Actually, I haven't posted anything about Lilium which is surprising, but then again, I'm just waiting for my DVD to finally come to me before I can post anything. (I wanted to post the photos from the booklet that came with it, but not the ones with spoilers since I respect those who haven't watched it yet.)

[joshmos]

I have NO idea what any of you are talking about as I want to wait for the subs..I have avoided spoilers (so far) and know little about this or any of the other plays in the series. I will say I am looking soooooooooo forward to this!! 

It is my understanding, however, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the other plays have not had nor will have any H!P involvement outside of "Lilium"...