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[Blossom321]

I realllllllly want to watch this now, but I can't. Im on my phone for few days, and I can only play youtube n dailymotion on phone, plus my internet is slow right now.

[Paramorning]

Is it better than Stacies?

[Aeria]

^Yes it is. This is a heck of a lot better.

 

Just finished watching it. I don't know how to feel now. It was beautiful, yet sadistic and just terrifying. 
 
Warning, spoilers ahead. 

Spoiler

I'm confused. What happened to Marigold after she killed Snow? Did she somehow burn to death and then came back to life and stabbed herself? And if I understood correctly, Lily is a TRUMP, like Farrus. The ending almost killed me. Hearing Lily scream as she killed herself pained me, and she kept on screaming when she couldn't kill herself.
 
Also, how exactly did Marigold go crazy? Was it the Mayuki or Margaret's bullying (?) or something else? Thanks to anybody who answers these for me~

Spoiler

The two things that irked me the most was when that high pitched squeal came on (right after Farrus controlled them), and the amount of screaming. By the end of this, I was scarred AND I had a headache.

 
And that plot twist scared me. Actually this whole production scarred me, but I'm fine with that. This was amazing. And I'm excited to get English subs for it (I understood about half of it and I was terrified, I think I'll be close to dead when I fully understand this) . Thank you again Estra for subbing and raving about this. : D

[avanpiper]

^Yes it is. This is a heck of a lot better.

 

Just finished watching it. I don't know how to feel now. It was beautiful, yet sadistic and just terrifying. 
 
Warning, spoilers ahead. 

Spoiler

I'm confused. What happened to Marigold after she killed Snow? Did she somehow burn to death and then came back to life and stabbed herself? And if I understood correctly, Lily is a TRUMP, like Farrus. The ending almost killed me. Hearing Lily scream as she killed herself pained me, and she kept on screaming when she couldn't kill herself.
 
Also, how exactly did Marigold go crazy? Was it the Mayuki or Margaret's bullying (?) or something else? Thanks to anybody who answers these for me~

Spoiler

The two things that irked me the most was when that high pitched squeal came on (right after Farrus controlled them), and the amount of screaming. By the end of this, I was scarred AND I had a headache.

 
And that plot twist scared me. Actually this whole production scarred me, but I'm fine with that. This was amazing. And I'm excited to get English subs for it (I understood about half of it and I was terrified, I think I'll be close to dead when I fully understand this) . Thank you again Estra for subbing and raving about this. : D

 

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Marigold, from what I understood or think, is that she's a mayuki, which was explained in the song Mayuki no Teaching, as a vampire who enters an 'adolescence' period where one becomes emotionally unstable. Lol I totally misunderstood about mayuki initially, I thought a Mayuki is a mixed blood of vampire and human and thought that was why Marigold was bullied and discriminated from young. Anyways, her mother told her that giving birth to her was a 'mistake'. Adding the discrimination by other vamps, she became very lonely and a depressed person, until the day Lily talked to her. For the first time, someone actually approached her in a friendly concerned manner so she took a liking for Lily.

 

Then again, let's just wait for proper subs.

 

About Marigold's death, I think Farrus used her powers (Initiative) to burn Marigold to death. I didn't remember seeing her come back to life and stabbed herself to death? Did I miss anything? *I only watched once.

I think Lily's a TRUMP too like Farrus. Her desperation in the end to kill herself but couldn't while everybody around her was dead... that was severely scarring.

[kuroageha]

^Yes it is. This is a heck of a lot better.

 

Just finished watching it. I don't know how to feel now. It was beautiful, yet sadistic and just terrifying. 
 
Warning, spoilers ahead. 

Spoiler

I'm confused. What happened to Marigold after she killed Snow? Did she somehow burn to death and then came back to life and stabbed herself? And if I understood correctly, Lily is a TRUMP, like Farrus. The ending almost killed me. Hearing Lily scream as she killed herself pained me, and she kept on screaming when she couldn't kill herself.
 
Also, how exactly did Marigold go crazy? Was it the Mayuki or Margaret's bullying (?) or something else? Thanks to anybody who answers these for me~

Spoiler

The two things that irked me the most was when that high pitched squeal came on (right after Farrus controlled them), and the amount of screaming. By the end of this, I was scarred AND I had a headache.

 
And that plot twist scared me. Actually this whole production scarred me, but I'm fine with that. This was amazing. And I'm excited to get English subs for it (I understood about half of it and I was terrified, I think I'll be close to dead when I fully understand this) . Thank you again Estra for subbing and raving about this. : D

 

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since Snow is Farrus's dearest creation (?) Farrus really mad to Marigold,Marigold can't forgot everything because she is Mayuki

and with Farrus's initiative,he makes Marigold die/dissappear

Marigold is like a yandere,she want to kill Snow because Snow makes Lily sad and Marigold wants Lily to be happy

[Bexie]

I've watched a load of the songs being performed, but not any of the rest of the musical as I won't understand a single word I love the songs though! And it also seems like Zukki has a bigger part than she did in Stacies... I kept forgetting she was even there in that, lol.

 

Although I'm sure I'll probably be shocked when I see the songs with subtitles - I was for Stacies, and that was how I actually ended up watching it. I'd never really paid attention to the stage plays MM has done before, but I stumbled across "Kimagure Zetsubou Arigatou" and thought it was beautiful, so I looked up the performance of it from the play, with subtitles. I had absolutely NO idea what the play was about, so when it got to

 

"making us eat people"

 

I was like WTF IS THIS PLAY

THIS SONG SOUNDED SO PRETTY

WAT

[JennyInTokyo]

I really want to watch this but I wanna watch the subbed version so I'll have to wait patiently. But the songs sound amazing!

[Aeria]

^Yes it is. This is a heck of a lot better.
 
Just finished watching it. I don't know how to feel now. It was beautiful, yet sadistic and just terrifying. 
 
Warning, spoilers ahead. 

Spoiler

I'm confused. What happened to Marigold after she killed Snow? Did she somehow burn to death and then came back to life and stabbed herself? And if I understood correctly, Lily is a TRUMP, like Farrus. The ending almost killed me. Hearing Lily scream as she killed herself pained me, and she kept on screaming when she couldn't kill herself.
 
Also, how exactly did Marigold go crazy? Was it the Mayuki or Margaret's bullying (?) or something else? Thanks to anybody who answers these for me~

Spoiler

The two things that irked me the most was when that high pitched squeal came on (right after Farrus controlled them), and the amount of screaming. By the end of this, I was scarred AND I had a headache.

 
And that plot twist scared me. Actually this whole production scarred me, but I'm fine with that. This was amazing. And I'm excited to get English subs for it (I understood about half of it and I was terrified, I think I'll be close to dead when I fully understand this) . Thank you again Estra for subbing and raving about this. : D

 

Spoiler

Marigold, from what I understood or think, is that she's a mayuki, which was explained in the song Mayuki no Teaching, as a vampire who enters an 'adolescence' period where one becomes emotionally unstable. Lol I totally misunderstood about mayuki initially, I thought a Mayuki is a mixed blood of vampire and human and thought that was why Marigold was bullied and discriminated from young. Anyways, her mother told her that giving birth to her was a 'mistake'. Adding the discrimination by other vamps, she became very lonely and a depressed person, until the day Lily talked to her. For the first time, someone actually approached her in a friendly concerned manner so she took a liking for Lily.
 
Then again, let's just wait for proper subs.
 
About Marigold's death, I think Farrus used her powers (Initiative) to burn Marigold to death. I didn't remember seeing her come back to life and stabbed herself to death? Did I miss anything? *I only watched once.
I think Lily's a TRUMP too like Farrus. Her desperation in the end to kill herself but couldn't while everybody around her was dead... that was severely scarring.

Spoiler

Ah, that makes sense, and yeah Marigold, stabbed herself too. And Margaret's minions, they died too.

But Lily and Farrus just screaming kept me up for most of the night.

[ZhiKai]

watched it in parts because i do not want to finish it so quickly.

I always like to watch vampire movies. Which is why i m so crazed about Lilium (idol + vampire = perfect) 

 

 

Spoiler

From my limited knowledge to the play...

Just want to ask is there a vampire ranking/hierarchy in Lilium. I could not figure out farrus and lily who is the more powerful one.
 

that scene of mass massacre was just wow.

[avanpiper]

I've watched a load of the songs being performed, but not any of the rest of the musical as I won't understand a single word I love the songs though! And it also seems like Zukki has a bigger part than she did in Stacies... I kept forgetting she was even there in that, lol.

 

Although I'm sure I'll probably be shocked when I see the songs with subtitles - I was for Stacies, and that was how I actually ended up watching it. I'd never really paid attention to the stage plays MM has done before, but I stumbled across "Kimagure Zetsubou Arigatou" and thought it was beautiful, so I looked up the performance of it from the play, with subtitles. I had absolutely NO idea what the play was about, so when it got to

 

"making us eat people"

 

I was like WTF IS THIS PLAY

THIS SONG SOUNDED SO PRETTY

WAT

Estrea subbed the songs a while ago. So the translations are available if you know where to look ^^

But imo, the lyrics weren't as crazy or gory as Stacy's.

 

@Momusu '14

 

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I watched again. Are you referring to the part where Lily used her Initiative to control everyone to stab each other to force Farrus to live alone? I think that scene was just to show that all the girls in the clan started killing each other and everyone died, destroying everthing Farrus' had built. I don't think Marigold specifically actually came back to life.

The screams...I bet they lost their voice after

[avanpiper]

ignore this double post *sorry*

[Nakari]

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Actually they are all in adocelence.  Its really confusing with Marigold and snow I still don't quite understand it. However during theater they will use other actors as background characters (hense why marigold and anyone else who had died came back for that scene, and why Sylvatica kept showing up also) I'm sure someone could explain it in more technical terms but thats pretty much the rough idea of the entire thing.
I'm not sure if this is how you spell it but a Damphir(??) is someone who is half vampire and human so kind of like a half blood; in case anyone was wondering.

[avanpiper]

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Actually they are all in adocelence.  Its really confusing with Marigold and snow I still don't quite understand it. However during theater they will use other actors as background characters (hense why marigold and anyone else who had died came back for that scene, and why Sylvatica kept showing up also) I'm sure someone could explain it in more technical terms but thats pretty much the rough idea of the entire thing.
I'm not sure if this is how you spell it but a Damphir(??) is someone who is half vampire and human so kind of like a half blood; in case anyone was wondering.

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Yes I think dhampir is half vampire and human blood. And because Marigold was one, she got discriminated. *However, just my guess.
About that scene, I was trying to explain it too in my previous post, sometimes, the dead comes back as extras just to show something in general. For example, they used Sylvatica to change the boards during that Mayuki no Teaching song lol...

[KuronoKame]

Just jumping in to the discussion. 

 

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Marigold is a dhampir (a half blood). The other two would be Cherry (really insignificant but still) and False (in which case became a Trump prior to Lilium's events). It's been revealed by Marigold just how much dhampirs are hated by both humans and purebloods alike, and since they have mixed blood, they are more extreme in terms of their Mayuki (or Chrysalis: the Vampire's equivalent of human's adolescence) conditions. This explains why Cherry is really loud, and how Marigold seems really protective of Lily because the latter was her only friend. 

 

Indeed in theatre, everything has to be exaggerated because it is not the same as doing a movie behind a camera. So the three screams really do make a difference and I personally think they did a really good job on that. Ayumi was really good as Cherry who is pretty extreme and PMS-y. In theatre, like Nakari said, would also use the other actors as extras if their character is not significant in the scene.

 

Spoiler

In that one scene with Marigold coming back to life like you all assumed, is false (pardon the pun). Marigold did burn to death because of False's Initiative (it didn't require for him to bite Marigold in this case because Trump.) but then assuming that there are also other people in the sanatorium other than the sixteen we know, Meimei had to be used as an extra. (and besides, if they had stabbed themselves and took off the knife right after all that rhythmic stabbing noises, they would have died, that is assuming that it was the other 13 left, but yeah, there's other people in the Clan).

[avanpiper]

Just jumping in to the discussion. 

 

Spoiler

Marigold is a dhampir (a half blood). The other two would be Cherry (really insignificant but still) and False (in which case became a Trump prior to Lilium's events). It's been revealed by Marigold just how much dhampirs are hated by both humans and purebloods alike, and since they have mixed blood, they are more extreme in terms of their Mayuki (or Chrysalis: the Vampire's equivalent of human's adolescence) conditions. This explains why Cherry is really loud, and how Marigold seems really protective of Lily because the latter was her only friend. 

 

Indeed in theatre, everything has to be exaggerated because it is not the same as doing a movie behind a camera. So the three screams really do make a difference and I personally think they did a really good job on that. Ayumi was really good as Cherry who is pretty extreme and PMS-y. In theatre, like Nakari said, would also use the other actors as extras if their character is not significant in the scene.

 

Spoiler

In that one scene with Marigold coming back to life like you all assumed, is false (pardon the pun). Marigold did burn to death because of False's Initiative (it didn't require for him to bite Marigold in this case because Trump.) but then assuming that there are also other people in the sanatorium other than the sixteen we know, Meimei had to be used as an extra. (and besides, if they had stabbed themselves and took off the knife right after all that rhythmic stabbing noises, they would have died, that is assuming that it was the other 13 left, but yeah, there's other people in the Clan).

Spoiler

Ah I didn't realize Cherry is a dhampir too! Because she was like throwing stones at Marigold etc...I thought she's a pureblood lol. Anyways, thanks for explaining. Now it is justified why her character is so loud. But she was hilarious and did her role really well, if so.

[KuronoKame]

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Ah I didn't realize Cherry is a dhampir too! Because she was like throwing stones at Marigold etc...I thought she's a pureblood lol. Anyways, thanks for explaining. Now it is justified why her character is so loud. But she was hilarious and did her role really well, if so.

 

Spoiler

Actually Cherry being a dhampir is only a trivial thing to know. You know how Marguerite tells Cherry that she smells (like a stinky rat)? At first, Marguerite didn't know that the smell came from dhampirs, but only thought that it was Cherry that smells and that boys smell as well (False got told this, and he got pretty pissed in the most calm way). After she encountered Marigold, that's when she figured out that the stinky rat smell came from only dhampirs. So yea, that explains Cherry a little for you!

[avanpiper]

 

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Actually Cherry being a dhampir is only a trivial thing to know. You know how Marguerite tells Cherry that she smells (like a stinky rat)? At first, Marguerite didn't know that the smell came from dhampirs, but only thought that it was Cherry that smells and that boys smell as well (False got told this, and he got pretty pissed in the most calm way). After she encountered Marigold, that's when she figured out that the stinky rat smell came from only dhampirs. So yea, that explains Cherry a little for you!

 

Spoiler

Aha...I never linked the whole stinky rat smell hint to Cherry being a dhampir. I thought Margaret was just bullying her coz she's all Princessy... You're really observant   Now it all makes more sense. Btw, I just need to understand another thing. It's about the relationship between Lily, Farrus and Snow. Who is more superior? Lily in the end could control Farrus using her Initiative...and who is Sophie Anderson=Farrus' real identity? *if that's what you call it*

[KuronoKame]

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Aha...I never linked the whole stinky rat smell hint to Cherry being a dhampir. I thought Margaret was just bullying her coz she's all Princessy... You're really observant   Now it all makes more sense. Btw, I just need to understand another thing. It's about the relationship between Lily, Farrus and Snow. Who is more superior? Lily in the end could control Farrus using her Initiative...and who is Sophie Anderson=Farrus' real identity? *if that's what you call it*

 

 

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The whole Cherry thing is so self explanatory. Ayumi did say that Cherry either forgot that she's a dhampir or she's only pretending to be a pureblood in order to not get hated on like Marigold is. And as for Lily and False, well... This one is a bit hard but from what I understood, False, Lily, and Snow had the same Initiative because of False's blood, but then in the end after Snow and Marigold died, Lily finally lost it and unleashed her power, now overpowering False in order to "save everyone." So yeah, Lily took control lol. 

 

Um, I'm not sure if I should reveal who Sophie Anderson/False really is if everyone hasn't watched Trump yet. It'll be hard to explain but I can still try. 

 

Also, just a side comment because I really wanted to say it: I really do love this play (unfortunately my DVD didn't come to me this week but I might get it on Monday >.>) And I'm way too observant to find a few Stacy's references in that play. Well, other than the Trump references as well. 

[avanpiper]

 

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The whole Cherry thing is so self explanatory. Ayumi did say that Cherry either forgot that she's a dhampir or she's only pretending to be a pureblood in order to not get hated on like Marigold is. And as for Lily and False, well... This one is a bit hard but from what I understood, False, Lily, and Snow had the same Initiative because of False's blood, but then in the end after Snow and Marigold died, Lily finally lost it and unleashed her power, now overpowering False in order to "save everyone." So yeah, Lily took control lol. 

 

Um, I'm not sure if I should reveal who Sophie Anderson/False really is if everyone hasn't watched Trump yet. It'll be hard to explain but I can still try. 

 

Also, just a side comment because I really wanted to say it: I really do love this play (unfortunately my DVD didn't come to me this week but I might get it on Monday >.>) And I'm way too observant to find a few Stacy's references in that play. Well, other than the Trump references as well. 

 

Spoiler

I must have missed the part where she said that about herself haha I guess I was kinda overwhelmed with everything and didn't watch very carefully. Anyways, now you're making me very curious about this Sophie Anderson. Maybe I should just look for TRUMP dvd and if I have the budget I'll get it when I go Japan in October

[Paramorning]

This is literally a conversation of spoilers and I am so tempted to read them!! Let this be the one plot twist I don't spoil for myself