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Anti-Fans; a definition. Also, I got married

Posted by Kitsuiko, 01 August 2012 · 925 views

Yeah! Marriage is actually pretty awesome. I think a great definition of a wedding is: wherein you invite all of your friends from high school and college to have a huge party sponsored by your parents where you're allowed to drink with your cool relatives and dance to Kpop and Jpop.

But enough about that.

Anti-Fans.

People have been throwing this term around a lot in now that there's the huge T-ara scandal and their definition sucks. It seems to be a way to negate any fan who disagrees with the group or the direction for any reason. I feel that's horribly unfair. I think the fact that we can have dialogue about what we like and don't like in a group is highly important for any fan community because the moment that becomes something we can't do we go from fandom to fan-dumb. A fan should feel comfortable outlining to me why Rika Ishikawa is awful. I should feel comfortable refuting these statements and in a worse case scenario we should both be able to see "I can understand how you, but, as for me that's not my cup of tea". In an ideal situation one of us learns something we never knew - maybe I didn't know the Rika fan scandal and that's the reason why they don't like her because they see her as ungrateful. Does it change my opinion? Maybe not, but, I can understand theirs more and that's awesome.

Anti-fans, however, aren't in it because they personally dislike so-and-so. They literally enjoy the failure and breaking apart of a group. Not wishing for it to improve. Not disliking a member. Not disliking a song. But the group falling apart in pieces with every failed single, appearance and movie is their bread and butter. That sounds a bit maniacal because it's looking at the set of behaviors averse to what they actually come out like:

"Well it's good their sales are so poor because all the songs right now are crap"

This sounds at first blush like it could just be any statement but the fan in question seems to be more happy that the sales are poor due to their dislike of the song. While it didn't seem likely if Pyoko Pyoko Ultra sold well - then - crap guys MoMusu sold well we should be happy. You could see this sort of anti-fan statement with people being frustrated that One Two Three sold well when they didn't personally like the song. It's not about the group to an anti-fan it's more about their personal dislike. You'll also see

"That song didn't deserve to sell well because its crap"
"There's going to be a big backlash because it's crap"
"It's just a gimmick this won't last"

Because the main goal is to contain success and mitigate it. Let's look at a situation with a member: Natsumi Abe. I pick Nacchi because though its hard for me to dislike her when she smiles that smile - she's got a lot of scandals that happened in her past. So is it wrong for a "real" fan to say :

I can't believe Nacchi was caught plagerizing! i can't support her anymore!" ?

Not at all. Fandom implies that close relationship with the girls in question when you're an idol fan. We can feel betrayed, upset, lied to and a host of other things that make us not want to support that person or group. Disliking someone after a scandal doesn't make you an anti-fan.

What makes you an antifan is posting about how you're glad that the fake has been knocked down and wishing harm on them. Again, this needs to be done with joy in suffering.

"Nacchi was caught in a scandal? Maybe Kei will get more screen time" doesn't make one an anti-fan. It makes you an opportunistic Kei fan.
"OH my god Nacchi is so fake I knew she was horrible hahaha how many Nacchi fans do you think committed suicide??" * -- statements like these? Rethink your fandumb. Maybe rethink other things too.


* actual quote from an anti-fan though the idol's name is different




Congrats on your marriage and well anti-fans are terrible. Their responses to idols they do not like are written without being thought about most of the time. -___-
YAY!!! on your marriage!! So happy for you!! Remember communication is key!!

Speaking of communication, I like how you broke down the definition of "anti-fan". I'm glad that there are some people on H!O that understand that it is okay to disagree and not love everything about a band and still discuss to see other point of views. But people who just spit venom just to spit venom, that's a whole different story.

I would say that Anti-Fans = Haters and that's the only time that the word 'haters' should be used. Just because a person dislikes something doesn't mean that they necessarily hate the group/person/etc...
Kpop and Jpop at a wedding, would love to see that O_o Congratz on wedding ^^
congrats on getting married, I'm on the way there too this Fall, very excited :o
Yeah, I've been having some issues with such "fans", and I used to try so hard to ignore most of them ><

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